View Poll Results: Will AA declare bankruptcy?
Yes
219
70.65%
No
91
29.35%
Voters: 310. You may not vote on this poll
Bankruptcy
07-26-2022, 06:42 AM
#1061
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,878
Copied:
There are 43 analysts that cover AAL. Seventeen of them submitted models for the following Trailing Twelve Month (TTM) Revenue, Free Cash Flow (FCF), and EPS estimates. The average of these 17 models indicate Trough FCF is the December 2022 quarter and positive FCF and Earnings are expected 3rd quarter 2023.
Is BK a possibility? Of course. It’s just not the gloom and doom you two seem to be weirdly infatuated with.
There are 43 analysts that cover AAL. Seventeen of them submitted models for the following Trailing Twelve Month (TTM) Revenue, Free Cash Flow (FCF), and EPS estimates. The average of these 17 models indicate Trough FCF is the December 2022 quarter and positive FCF and Earnings are expected 3rd quarter 2023.
Is BK a possibility? Of course. It’s just not the gloom and doom you two seem to be weirdly infatuated with.
07-26-2022, 07:01 AM
#1063
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,463
Do people realize that some of the shots they fire at AA apply to UL and DL too? I mean all three are in a very similar situation with AA being in a slightly worse situation, for now...
As far as all these Spirit pilots coming in here and ****ting in our woods, I would be more worried about what is going to happen to you within the next year or so. Your great "QOL contract" will be no more and it is a pipe dream that you guys think it will survive any acquisition. Have any Karbon jackets to sell?
As far as all these Spirit pilots coming in here and ****ting in our woods, I would be more worried about what is going to happen to you within the next year or so. Your great "QOL contract" will be no more and it is a pipe dream that you guys think it will survive any acquisition. Have any Karbon jackets to sell?
07-26-2022, 07:22 AM
#1064
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,483
Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Do people realize that some of the shots they fire at AA apply to UL and DL too? I mean all three are in a very similar situation with AA being in a slightly worse situation, for now...
As far as all these Spirit pilots coming in here and ****ting in our woods, I would be more worried about what is going to happen to you within the next year or so. Your great "QOL contract" will be no more and it is a pipe dream that you guys think it will survive any acquisition. Have any Karbon jackets to sell?
As far as all these Spirit pilots coming in here and ****ting in our woods, I would be more worried about what is going to happen to you within the next year or so. Your great "QOL contract" will be no more and it is a pipe dream that you guys think it will survive any acquisition. Have any Karbon jackets to sell?
"slightly worse"?
AAGs shareholder equity is over 8 billion in red. DAL is 3.8 billion in black, UAL is 3.7 billion. LUV is just over 10 billion, UPS 15 billion, FDX almost 25 billion. That is not "slightly worse", that is on a different planet.
I wouldn't invest in any passenger airline right now.
07-26-2022, 07:23 AM
#1065
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,553
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
AA is carrying ~5b more debt than UAL
AA is carrying ~5b more in total liabilities than DL
(Their new order not included)
Are they going to be ok?
AA is carrying ~5b more in total liabilities than DL
(Their new order not included)
Are they going to be ok?
It’s called stock dilution. Eventually you need to either buyback stock or actually service those shares with some dividends.
Btw…
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/boli...ays-2021-09-21
07-26-2022, 07:31 AM
#1066
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 136
Originally Posted by Excargodog
Delta has not been selling stock at market bottom prices to raise money. AA has.
It’s called stock dilution. Eventually you need to either buyback stock or actually service those shares with some dividends.
I can find you a similar forecast from a guy selling Bolivian tin futures. How many can I put you down for?
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/boli...ays-2021-09-21
It’s called stock dilution. Eventually you need to either buyback stock or actually service those shares with some dividends.
I can find you a similar forecast from a guy selling Bolivian tin futures. How many can I put you down for?
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/boli...ays-2021-09-21
Anyway, RI isn’t Buffett by any means but they don’t have to pay a dividend or buy back stock…but they probably do need to run a tighter ship.
07-26-2022, 07:32 AM
#1067
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,553
Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Do people realize that some of the shots they fire at AA apply to UL and DL too? I mean all three are in a very similar situation with AA being in a slightly worse situation, for now...
As far as all these Spirit pilots coming in here and ****ting in our woods, I would be more worried about what is going to happen to you within the next year or so. Your great "QOL contract" will be no more and it is a pipe dream that you guys think it will survive any acquisition. Have any Karbon jackets to sell?
As far as all these Spirit pilots coming in here and ****ting in our woods, I would be more worried about what is going to happen to you within the next year or so. Your great "QOL contract" will be no more and it is a pipe dream that you guys think it will survive any acquisition. Have any Karbon jackets to sell?
07-26-2022, 07:34 AM
#1068
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,553
Originally Posted by RadialRover
Are you under the impression that any passenger airline has paid a dividend in two years? Are you also under the impression that all successful company stocks pay dividends? Are you aware of Warren Buffett’s position on paying a dividend?
Anyway, RI isn’t Buffett by any means but they don’t have to pay a dividend or buy back stock…but they probably do need to run a tighter ship.
Anyway, RI isn’t Buffett by any means but they don’t have to pay a dividend or buy back stock…but they probably do need to run a tighter ship.
07-26-2022, 08:05 AM
#1069
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 96
Don't let the negativity on these forums get to your head. Take the first legacy class and don't commute.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
07-26-2022, 08:09 AM
#1070
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,318
Originally Posted by Floy
Don't let the negativity on these forums get to your head. Take the first legacy class and don't commute.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
That turns out to be the real issue in question. The first legacy class is AA in the very near future which would require a commute for the rest of my career to a company highly in debt (the true numbers and ramifications being argued here notwithstanding). Or wait for my DL CJO with no class date and metering but no commute. Or stay at the biggest regional with a super seniority and some very likely pay and QOL improvements on the horizon.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
