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Old 07-26-2022, 03:56 PM
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I don't camp here.
15 of your last 25 posts are in the AA forums. That's 60% devoted to an airline you're not at. One, only one (1), or 4%, is in your own forum. That's an obsession.


*make that 16/25
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Old 07-26-2022, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rroku View Post
15 of your last 25 posts are in the AA forums. That's 60% devoted to an airline you're not at. One, only one (1), or 4%, is in your own forum. That's an obsession.
No, thats cherry picking a statistic. There hasn't been much activity in "my" forum. I have a few thousand posts. I bet AA is not even in the top 10 of them. Hope you dont feel left out now.

You are still just proving my point. You just can't refute any of my comments so you just attack the poster. Lame duck strategy.
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Old 07-26-2022, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
No, thats cherry picking a statistic. There hasn't been much activity in "my" forum. I have a few thousand posts. I bet AA is not even in the top 10 of them. Hope you dont feel left out now.

You are still just proving my point. You just can't refute any of my comments so you just attack the poster. Lame duck strategy.
17/25 isn't cherry picking, that's your latest post count - the first page. I didn't select it. Move on, bro. Let go of the AA hate. Enjoy Atlas.
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Old 07-26-2022, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
I don't camp here. Is there something factual you would like to discuss about my comment? These ad hominems are a bit much. You dont like my opinions? Fine. You think they are factually incorrect? Please argue otherwise. That's what forums are for.
Sure why don’t you post contratual sections that are so awesome compared to AA and school a
us all? Why are you asking us to argue with you, we don’t care about you lol.

Fine I’ll even start

Your pay rates are miles behind us. Both wide body and 737 (didn’t even know you had 73s). And will still be miles behind in 2025 when you reach the final scheduled increase. That even assumes that AA will have the same contract in 2025 and you’re still miles behind.

How’s your sick time payout work? When a Crew Member uses a sick Day, the Crew Member will be credited and paid 3.76 hours per Day up to the applicable Minimum Monthly Guarantee in accordance with Article 14.C.

What’s your monthly min guarantee? 64 hours. Ouch. Yea I know you have some provision for an Out-Base thing but by the sounds of it you’ll be on the road a month+ straight.

Anyways your turn chief. Draw out a nice lengthy contract comparison for us and we can all evaluate it. Instead of making short snarky comments like some weird sassy little ex-girlfriend.
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Old 07-26-2022, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rroku View Post
17/25 isn't cherry picking, that's your latest post count - the first page. I didn't select it. Move on, bro. Let go of the AA hate. Enjoy Atlas.
17 out of 25 with 5510 posts is the definition of cherry picking. All good. I don't hate AA. I am just talking numbers. Can you refute any?
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Old 07-26-2022, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso View Post
Sure why don’t you post contratual sections that are so awesome compared to AA and school a
us all? Why are you asking us to argue with you, we don’t care about you lol.

Fine I’ll even start

Your pay rates are miles behind us. Both wide body and 737 (didn’t even know you had 73s). And will still be miles behind in 2025 when you reach the final scheduled increase. That even assumes that AA will have the same contract in 2025 and you’re still miles behind.

How’s your sick time payout work? When a Crew Member uses a sick Day, the Crew Member will be credited and paid 3.76 hours per Day up to the applicable Minimum Monthly Guarantee in accordance with Article 14.C.

What’s your monthly min guarantee? 64 hours. Ouch. Yea I know you have some provision for an Out-Base thing but by the sounds of it you’ll be on the road a month+ straight.

Anyways your turn chief. Draw out a nice lengthy contract comparison for us and we can all evaluate it. Instead of making short snarky comments like some weird sassy little ex-girlfriend.
What are you talking about? Maybe you should start a new thread comparing the contracts? Can you or can you not refute a post I've made here? If not, move on.

But just to humor your pathetic ad hominem, here's one.

"In addition to any other applicable credit and pay, Article 33 Operations (block-to-block) will be paid at one hundred seventy-five percent (175%) of the Crew Member’s hourly rate."

Our LTD is better too. hope you get that fixed in your next contract.

And since you mention pay rates, how many 6 year G4 captains do you have? Thought so. Compare apples to apples.
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Old 07-26-2022, 04:48 PM
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Sorry dera, but most of us have friends at Atlas. Don't talk to me about a single month schedule - show me your entire year. How many days will you work? How many overnights? What are the typical trip lengths? I guess my two buddies are completely FOS, because they're certainly not working a full year of 10 day months, and they both have a lot more than 3 years on property.
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Old 07-26-2022, 05:03 PM
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Sorry dera, but most of us have friends at Atlas. Don't talk to me about a single month schedule - show me your entire year. How many days will you work? How many overnights? What are the typical trip lengths? I guess my two buddies are completely FOS, because they're certainly not working a full year of 10 day months, and they both have a lot more than 3 years on property.
Cool story bro. Last 6 months or so, ORD for example has had lines with 18+ days off. MIA guys can bid for out and backs where they are back in base 20+ days a month. But hey, cool story bro.

I still don't know how any of this is relevant to what AAGs financials are like.
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Old 07-26-2022, 05:08 PM
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You know I chose Atlas over AA, right? Had to choose money and QOL over the prestige of saying I work for AA. You know, the airline who will hire you without an interview.

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Old 07-26-2022, 05:11 PM
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I still don't know how any of this is relevant to what AAGs financials are like.
You're the one that brought up your amazing QOL, and I'm just trying to get you to tell me more about it, but you can't seem to do that. You're clearly too defensive. So never mind - that coworker of yours at Envoy was apparently right. I'll leave you alone.
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