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Old 04-06-2021, 08:52 AM
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Because I can’t even get down to an airplane I’m about to fly without the gate agent letting me.......
In many locations, yet another difference with being AAG and not an outside contractor.
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Old 04-06-2021, 10:02 AM
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In many locations, yet another difference with being AAG and not an outside contractor.
Not sure I follow - I’m just saying that captains at AA and (im almost positive) it’s WOs don’t have a say in who goes through the door. You could turn someone down coming into the cockpit but that’s really where the authority ends. No RAH iPad app is going to change that for many reasons. We’re probably on the same page here
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At what point does YX finally get kicked in the teeth for what they are pulling with the jumpseat? https://youtu.be/6vndXYjXePM
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Old 05-01-2021, 07:16 PM
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At what point does YX finally get kicked in the teeth for what they are pulling with the jumpseat? https://youtu.be/6vndXYjXePM
Seems to me that it is mostly only Envoy guys who seem to have a problem with this and are at the forefront of spreading misinformation on it. Where on the doll did the Republic pilot hurt you? When you flow to AA in 10 years will you be denying RPA pilots on your jumpseat?
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Old 05-02-2021, 09:04 AM
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Seems to me that it is mostly only Envoy guys who seem to have a problem with this and are at the forefront of spreading misinformation on it. Where on the doll did the Republic pilot hurt you? When you flow to AA in 10 years will you be denying RPA pilots on your jumpseat?
I don’t see why Envoy is upset about this. They would still have priority over us (I’m mesa). This is a well reasoned presentation.
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Old 05-02-2021, 04:31 PM
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I don’t see why Envoy is upset about this. They would still have priority over us (I’m mesa). This is a well reasoned presentation.
Envoy and the WO pilots believe we're beneath them and us getting any sort of gain while they receive nothing in their eyes is an automatic no

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Old 05-02-2021, 08:23 PM
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Seems to me that it is mostly only Envoy guys who seem to have a problem with this and are at the forefront of spreading misinformation on it. Where on the doll did the Republic pilot hurt you? When you flow to AA in 10 years will you be denying RPA pilots on your jumpseat?
It boils down to the fact that your company cannot isolate the scheduling of their pilots to where they fly for one specific carrier. Why should a EWR based pilot who flies almost exclusively for United receive an enhanced benefit on American? They shouldn't. And until YX can isolate their bases to where only bases X-Y-Z fly for AA, there should not be any change. Do you want flow next? It's not my problem if it costs YX more money or interrupts their business model. You’re a FFDC, build it into your next CPA with AA. Your company signed and agreement and now you're trying to whine yourselves into a better one.

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It boils down to the fact that your company cannot isolate the scheduling of their pilots to where they fly for one specific carrier. Why should a EWR based pilot who flies almost exclusively for United receive an enhanced benefit on American? They shouldn't. And until YX can isolate their bases to where only bases X-Y-Z fly for AA, there should not be any change. Do you want flow next? It's not my problem if it costs YX more money or interrupts their business model. You’re a FFDC, build it into your next CPA with AA. Your company signed and agreement and now you're trying to whine yourselves into a better one.

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Mesa couldn’t now they can. Will you change it for Mesa? We fly exclusively for one carrier now that the crjs are gone in IAD.
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 View Post
It boils down to the fact that your company cannot isolate the scheduling of their pilots to where they fly for one specific carrier. Why should a EWR based pilot who flies almost exclusively for United receive an enhanced benefit on American? They shouldn't. And until YX can isolate their bases to where only bases X-Y-Z fly for AA, there should not be any change. Do you want flow next? It's not my problem if it costs YX more money or interrupts their business model. You’re a FFDC, build it into your next CPA with AA. Your company signed and agreement and now you're trying to whine yourselves into a better one.

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That’s why if X percentage of YX planes fly for AA then give X percentage of YX pilots priority on AA. Let them pick which X percentage get the priority. Problem solved. They won’t ever get 100% of pilots priority. That’s just wrong.
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Old 05-03-2021, 05:49 AM
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It boils down to the fact that your company cannot isolate the scheduling of their pilots to where they fly for one specific carrier. Why should a EWR based pilot who flies almost exclusively for United receive an enhanced benefit on American? They shouldn't. And until YX can isolate their bases to where only bases X-Y-Z fly for AA, there should not be any change. Do you want flow next? It's not my problem if it costs YX more money or interrupts their business model. You’re a FFDC, build it into your next CPA with AA. Your company signed and agreement and now you're trying to whine yourselves into a better one.

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So I am a former regional guy at AA, and I tend to give the regional carriers a big backing when it comes to a lot of stuff, but in this case YX is being a little ridiculous. If YX flew exclusively for AA then yeah no problem, but they are literally out there flying under contract for our direct competition. Now I get it, that has nothing to do with YX pilots, but I fly for AA and you don't see me asking for enhanced travel benefits on Delta flights, or even better example, JB and Alaska. I was at 9E back in the day and we had NWA flying and Delta flying(pre-merger). Our ATL based pilots(delta flying) received benefits on Delta while all the other 9E pilots did not, it was like that back then and I had no problem with it...
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