Anyone get a class date or hear anything from Recruiting guys?
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Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3264420)
While I think flow is great for regional new hires, it has been doing a huge disservice to OTS folks. AA does not interview or screen anyone that woke for these regional flows. All it seems you need is a pulse to get hired on at one of these flowing regionals. Yet OTS folks have extreme screening requirements.. almost impossible to get a call even with 10 times the variety and value of qualifications.
Yes sir, and that is the “tit-for-tat” agreement between wholly owned pilot applicants and AAG that was made when a wholly owned pilot agreed to show up for day 1 of indoc at one of the regionals. In exchange for keeping AAGs wholly owned staffed while working for lower wages under a persisting bankruptcy contract and generally sub-par treatment and QOL, we are given relief from having to compete with OTS. It’s a strategy and benefit that is potentially open to anyone. In other words, flow throughs have “seen some pain”. Buy’em a GD cuppa Joe for chryssakes (intentionally misspelled, grammar police). I know you know this, just felt therapeutic to chime in. My flow parole is in 6 months. |
Originally Posted by ItwillBuffout
(Post 3265892)
Anyone get a class date or hear anything from Recruiting guys?
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Per the VP of Flight- “intend to hire 350 new pilots by the end of year and now anticipate hiring more than 1000 pilots in 2022”.
No mention of if those pilots will be employed at AA or JetBlue… ha? |
Anyone know when the first class date is in September?
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Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3266853)
Anyone know when the first class date is in September?
September 22nd |
That is officially the first class? I know flows are flowing that class but there was typically 2 classes a month.
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Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3266861)
That is officially the first class? I know flows are flowing that class but there was typically 2 classes a month.
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Pilot hiring resumes, additional hiring planned for 2022
Ahead of tomorrow’s second-quarter financial results, Doug and Robert recently gave analysts and our team a forecast of what we can expect. And the news is promising. As an airline, our revenue and expense performance for the quarter came in better than expected. As an industry, travel demand is returning. Though the numbers aren’t at 2019 levels and the demand itself looks different right now, it’s the path to recovery we’ve all been focused on. Beyond our more immediate recovery efforts, our attention is also on our long-term future, building American to thrive forever and our pilots are key to that. I’m glad to share that our previous hiring expectations are increasing — we intend to hire 350 new pilots by the end of year and now anticipate hiring more than 1,000 pilots in 2022. New hire classes will resume in September and will include flow from Envoy, Piedmont and PSA, as well as pilots who were hired at the onset of the pandemic, but were idled as we paused our recruiting and hiring efforts. Though we were limited in pilot growth this past year, we are now moving full speed ahead with plans to continue recruiting, hiring and training the best and most diverse pilots in the business. The online application for new hire pilots opens this Friday, July 23 and can be accessed at aa.pilotcredentials.com. As the pace of hiring ramps up, our ask of you is to look for opportunities to mentor these pilots who will be joining our ranks very soon. Nobody knows better what it takes to be an American Airlines pilot than the best aviators in the world. Thanks for your continued leadership this past year and for everything you do every day to deliver and care for our customers and colleagues. |
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 3266871)
Pilot hiring resumes, additional hiring planned for 2022
Ahead of tomorrow’s second-quarter financial results, Doug and Robert recently gave analysts and our team a forecast of what we can expect. And the news is promising. As an airline, our revenue and expense performance for the quarter came in better than expected. As an industry, travel demand is returning. Though the numbers aren’t at 2019 levels and the demand itself looks different right now, it’s the path to recovery we’ve all been focused on. Beyond our more immediate recovery efforts, our attention is also on our long-term future, building American to thrive forever and our pilots are key to that. I’m glad to share that our previous hiring expectations are increasing — we intend to hire 350 new pilots by the end of year and now anticipate hiring more than 1,000 pilots in 2022. New hire classes will resume in September and will include flow from Envoy, Piedmont and PSA, as well as pilots who were hired at the onset of the pandemic, but were idled as we paused our recruiting and hiring efforts. Though we were limited in pilot growth this past year, we are now moving full speed ahead with plans to continue recruiting, hiring and training the best and most diverse pilots in the business. The online application for new hire pilots opens this Friday, July 23 and can be accessed at aa.pilotcredentials.com. As the pace of hiring ramps up, our ask of you is to look for opportunities to mentor these pilots who will be joining our ranks very soon. Nobody knows better what it takes to be an American Airlines pilot than the best aviators in the world. Thanks for your continued leadership this past year and for everything you do every day to deliver and care for our customers and colleagues. |
Originally Posted by El Peso
(Post 3266877)
Nice (ellipsis)
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
(Post 3266898)
Now if only they would actually call the people we refer. Lol
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350 and 1,000+ are slightly higher rates than 2018, which had been the AA record.
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Originally Posted by El Peso
(Post 3267054)
That’s odd I would’ve thought they’d be all over it. Saw a crew news recently with the head of pilot recruitment. She gave out an email address and said please send recs, we’re looking for people. Maybe they just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
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Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3267152)
Would you care to share what that email address is?? Folks that i talked to said there is no link in jetnet anymore..
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“The online application for new hire pilots opens this Friday, July 23”
- Chip Long |
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Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3267152)
Would you care to share what that email address is?? Folks that i talked to said there is no link in jetnet anymore..
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
(Post 3265278)
It doesn't give you better pilots, it gives you pilots who the day they get off probation, start captaining from the right seat. Who wants to spend 4 days with that?
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Originally Posted by TankerDriver
(Post 3267439)
Are saying that military hires have the propensity to "captain" from the right seat?
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Originally Posted by TankerDriver
(Post 3267439)
Are saying that military hires have the propensity to "captain" from the right seat? That's a pretty interesting comment.
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Originally Posted by morerightrudder
(Post 3267487)
OP was talking about pilots who have had management experience. At least that's how I read it.
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
(Post 3265278)
A pilot with a ton of PIC jet hours and a bunch of type ratings has proven they can do that. If they have survived that long in this industry, they probably have the technical skills, CRM, and ability to pass training the majors are looking for. But instead, they keep moving the goal posts with these asinine qualifiers. Not everyone gets to be a management pilot. Those who think you just apply and get those jobs have probably never held them. On most properties, you have to kiss a lot of ass and play golf or drink with the right people to get those jobs. Some people are locked out of this jobs because of who they are, or because they don't look like the people doing the hiring. So they're worthless things to grade people on. It doesn't give you better pilots, it gives you pilots who the day they get off probation, start captaining from the right seat. Who wants to spend 4 days with that? I'd rather have the line pilot who moves the freight.
And before someone hands me sour grapes, I'm not looking for a job, I'm good where I am. Just something I've noticed after decades in this industry. |
Agree in 100 %
Originally Posted by BFMthisA10
(Post 3267500)
This is nearly perfect circular logic.
I will always say. Flying is the easiest , rewarding job I have ever have, of course training, recurrent,line check, difficult people to fly ,you name it,etc bring little stress to me. The most difficult job with the right people will be the easiest job to do. The most easiest job with the difficult people will be tourtre,my few cents. |
Does the new pilot skills test give you a pass/fail or does it just accept how you've done and make a behind the scenes score/determination?
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Originally Posted by Setspeed
(Post 3268348)
Does the new pilot skills test give you a pass/fail or does it just accept how you've done and make a behind the scenes score/determination?
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Originally Posted by mketch11
(Post 3268360)
what new skills test? I’m not seeing anything like that on mine
Has anyone taken this new test yet? I'm assuming they changed it. |
Haven’t taken it yet but it wasn’t showing up on an iPad or desktop until I hit the refresh button. Showing on both now
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Originally Posted by Setspeed
(Post 3268348)
Does the new pilot skills test give you a pass/fail or does it just accept how you've done and make a behind the scenes score/determination?
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23
(Post 3268663)
I took mine yesterday. It’s all cognitive stuff. Nothing on there struck me as something I could have studied for. Some of the questions give immediate feedback if you chose the right or wrong answer but there was no pass/fail at the end of each section or the end of the entire test.
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Originally Posted by Jettwinggs
(Post 3268694)
Did you get a green check mark on the pilot skills test after completing it?
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Originally Posted by tankerclown23
(Post 3268719)
My “checklist” section doesn’t show an area for the skills test to be checked off. When I click on the pilot skills test tab and go to the portal, that’s where it says “thank you for completing this assessment.”
Same here. Would it not being in the summary section mean something bad? |
Looking for help.
I have completed the requirements "American Pilot Credentials." Is there anywhere else I need to submit an application for employment? Such as a general application through the American Airlines website? Is filing out AA credentials where the hiring team recruits from, or is there an application window much like Southwest where you must visit a specific portal? |
Originally Posted by tankerclown23
(Post 3268719)
My “checklist” section doesn’t show an area for the skills test to be checked off. When I click on the pilot skills test tab and go to the portal, that’s where it says “thank you for completing this assessment.” Would it not being in the summary section mean something bad?
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My pilot credentials still has bugs in it. It wont save my alternate email and my are you a veteran question. Once you log out and log back in, it disappears..
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Welcome to American, where technical “glitches” are considered features by management. Just like how hard it is to submit an expense report or get paid for your vaccines….
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How is the commute to Chicago from DTW?
Is it a good QOL? |
Originally Posted by HockeyMan
(Post 3268765)
How is the commute to Chicago from DTW?
Is it a good QOL? |
Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3268731)
My pilot credentials still has bugs in it. It wont save my alternate email and my are you a veteran question. Once you log out and log back in, it disappears..
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Originally Posted by Skycap876
(Post 3268726)
Looking for help.
I have completed the requirements "American Pilot Credentials." Is there anywhere else I need to submit an application for employment? Such as a general application through the American Airlines website? Is filing out AA credentials where the hiring team recruits from, or is there an application window much like Southwest where you must visit a specific portal? |
Originally Posted by Beech Dude
(Post 3268806)
It saves. The bug is the field goes blank. If you go to print profile, it'll show.
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