Originally Posted by Dunkin
(Post 3278294)
With the huge wave of retirements in the next 5 years it’s going to be tough to grow much if at all. All the new hires will just be replacing those leaving, plus the training center will be maxed out on upgrades, initials, and transition events. I’d bet most of the incoming 787s will be replacing the old 777s and 5 years from now we’ll still be at 13,500-14,000 pilots.
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Originally Posted by El Peso
(Post 3278319)
A year ago I would’ve disagreed with you. Looking around today 1.5 years into the pandemic, and I don’t see a need for more long-haul wide bodies for a long time. Grandpa in the White House continues to ban vaccinated Europeans from entry. Asian theatre isn’t even beginning to move in the reopening direction. Australia and New Zealand are aiming for zero COVID cases and are basically impossible to fly to anymore. That leaves South America and domestic wide body flying.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 3266871)
Pilot hiring resumes, additional hiring planned for 2022
Ahead of tomorrow’s second-quarter financial results, Doug and Robert recently gave analysts and our team a forecast of what we can expect. And the news is promising. As an airline, our revenue and expense performance for the quarter came in better than expected. As an industry, travel demand is returning. Though the numbers aren’t at 2019 levels and the demand itself looks different right now, it’s the path to recovery we’ve all been focused on. Beyond our more immediate recovery efforts, our attention is also on our long-term future, building American to thrive forever and our pilots are key to that. I’m glad to share that our previous hiring expectations are increasing — we intend to hire 350 new pilots by the end of year and now anticipate hiring more than 1,000 pilots in 2022. New hire classes will resume in September and will include flow from Envoy, Piedmont and PSA, as well as pilots who were hired at the onset of the pandemic, but were idled as we paused our recruiting and hiring efforts. Though we were limited in pilot growth this past year, we are now moving full speed ahead with plans to continue recruiting, hiring and training the best and most diverse pilots in the business. The online application for new hire pilots opens this Friday, July 23 and can be accessed at aa.pilotcredentials.com. As the pace of hiring ramps up, our ask of you is to look for opportunities to mentor these pilots who will be joining our ranks very soon. Nobody knows better what it takes to be an American Airlines pilot than the best aviators in the world. Thanks for your continued leadership this past year and for everything you do every day to deliver and care for our customers and colleagues. Can anyone confirm that the credentials site is the only profile you need? The AA site mentions there are no open postings for pilot positions at this time after a keyword search for pilot and first officer. Cheers! |
Originally Posted by stoki
(Post 3279244)
Can anyone confirm that the credentials site is the only profile you need? The AA site mentions there are no open postings for pilot positions at this time after a keyword search for pilot and first officer.
Cheers! … |
Can some one comment on how much weight reccs from AA pilots that are submitted on Pilot credentials carry for getting an interview call?
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Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3279452)
Can some one comment on how much weight reccs from AA pilots that are submitted on Pilot credentials carry for getting an interview call?
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 3279497)
i don’t think they carry any weight until the interview. If it’s from the VP of flight it may be a different deal.
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AA Hiring?
Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3279522)
but I guess, the computer algorithm would not know who its from anyway right?
Right. There would probably be a phone call as well. |
So here's a question for anybody who has insight - In 2019 I was hired by both AA and UPS and wound up taking the UPS offer. There was a lot of good there, but life changed and I'd like to get a redo for the pax world. I've reapplied for AA, but did I burn my one shot?
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Originally Posted by RNO Flyer
(Post 3279552)
So here's a question for anybody who has insight - In 2019 I was hired by both AA and UPS and wound up taking the UPS offer. There was a lot of good there, but life changed and I'd like to get a redo for the pax world. I've reapplied for AA, but did I burn my one shot?
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Originally Posted by RNO Flyer
(Post 3279552)
So here's a question for anybody who has insight - In 2019 I was hired by both AA and UPS and wound up taking the UPS offer. There was a lot of good there, but life changed and I'd like to get a redo for the pax world. I've reapplied for AA, but did I burn my one shot?
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Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3279452)
Can some one comment on how much weight reccs from AA pilots that are submitted on Pilot credentials carry for getting an interview call?
They absolutely count. The computer scores your app based on many factors, and having internal reccs increases your score. 3 is the magic number to max out that section. The computer knows that the recommender is “internal,” since it is tied to an AA email address. Likewise, it is tied to your app via your e-Mail address, that’s how the gonkulator assigns points to you. Now, is the recommendation read before the interview (if at all)? No, and I think that is what Al is referring to. But it absolutely increases your app score (unless, of course, the recommender clicked “do not hire.”) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Would someone please comment on which interview prep service is the best for American? Does anyone have experience with multiple interview prep services?
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Originally Posted by mukalel
(Post 3279879)
Would someone please comment on which interview prep service is the best for American? Does anyone have experience with multiple interview prep services?
I used Emerald Coast and was pretty happy. AA Pilot Recruiting bends over backward to make the interview low stress. It’s definitely not a stump the chump evolution. Some TMAATW questions, but mostly a get to know you conversation. Be your ‘best self’ and you’ll do fine. Feel free to pm me if you want. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Skylarking
(Post 3279947)
I used Emerald Coast and was pretty happy.
AA Pilot Recruiting bends over backward to make the interview low stress. It’s definitely not a stump the chump evolution. Some TMAATW questions, but mostly a get to know you conversation. Be your ‘best self’ and you’ll do fine. Feel free to pm me if you want. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
very true about Recruiting team. interviewed early 2020
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 3279497)
i don’t think they carry any weight until the interview. If it’s from the VP of flight it may be a different deal.
“We’ve announced our plan to hire more than 1,000 new pilots next year, and while the precise number is still changing, you can expect that we will hire more pilots in 2022 than we have in any calendar year in our company’s rich history. Throughout this process, we will continue to rely on your recommendations – more now than ever.” |
Sounds like they are going to be so busy they may not have time to check on every app. Have to go with highest probability of success. Is that significantly different than in the past?
Or are they going to get through that entire big backlog? (You know every airline has apps from the ton of the regional pilots, Those apps are more than the total number of regional pilots - including the newly hired FO at the regionals). |
Originally Posted by TransWorld
(Post 3282575)
Sounds like they are going to be so busy they may not have time to check on every app. Have to go with highest probability of success. Is that significantly different than in the past?
Or are they going to get through that entire big backlog? (You know every airline has apps from the ton of the regional pilots, Those apps are more than the total number of regional pilots - including the newly hired FO at the regionals). |
The most recent update from the hiring department says there a recorded video interview, an online work traits assessment, a virtual admin interview, and then finally an in person technical interview.
So we’re back to doing technicals? Or is this a TMAAT/scenario driven interview? Not sure what the admin part would be then. Hmm |
I think it said the HR interview will be virtual. Used to be right after your in-person pilot panel. The candidate would sit with a company HR professional and have a chat.
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Originally Posted by watch
(Post 3283442)
I think it said the HR interview will be virtual. Used to be right after your in-person pilot panel. The candidate would sit with a company HR professional and have a chat.
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The online pilot skill test is a bunch of puzzles and reaction time stuff. There isn’t an SBI (scenario based interview) or a knowledge test (delta dropped theirs too)
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Originally Posted by Pebbles
(Post 3274653)
2021 New Hire Class Dates/Sizes Planned:
08SEP —— 40 22SEP —— 40 06OCT —— 45 20OCT —— 45 03NOV —— 45 17NOV —— 45 01DEC —— 45 15DEC —— 45 Total: 350 Have any cjo holders been offered class dates yet? If not, any rumors on when class dates will be given? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Skylarking
(Post 3286347)
Have any cjo holders been offered class dates yet? If not, any rumors on when class dates will be given?
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While I don't know how many street hires are in the Sep 22nd class, I do know it is not just flows. Congrats to everyone starting at AA soon!
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Originally Posted by ebuhoner
(Post 3286407)
Yes, the group that was supposed to start at the end of March 2020 got assigned a September 8th class. Then Sept 22nd is mostly flows I think. I have not heard of any CJO holder getting an invite for the 22nd yet. There is still however a lot of guys in the pool waiting for a class date and a few that were offered an interview but have not been called yet.
Thanks for the reply. Can’t to join the team! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by MartyM
(Post 3286432)
While I don't know how many street hires are in the Sep 22nd class, I do know it is not just flows. Congrats to everyone starting at AA soon!
Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Hey Guys, I have a question regarding the references section of the application.
It looks like they only want references who are currently employed pilots. In the extensive drop-down menu I can't find U.S. Air Force as an employer option. Does the company not want Air Force/military references? Or should I list them and leave the employer blank? |
Originally Posted by sweep
(Post 3287628)
Hey Guys, I have a question regarding the references section of the application.
It looks like they only want references who are currently employed pilots. In the extensive drop-down menu I can't find U.S. Air Force as an employer option. Does the company not want Air Force/military references? Or should I list them and leave the employer blank? |
Originally Posted by Setspeed
(Post 3287947)
Don’t have an answer unfortunately, but to piggyback on an app question- where does one input volunteer work? There’s really only an option for employment or just putting it on your resume and uploading that.
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Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3287970)
My only volunteer was on my resume and they called.
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Originally Posted by Tjeff
(Post 3287970)
My only volunteer was on my resume and they called.
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If you have questions about the app, email pilot hiring. If enough people do, it may raise their awareness of a potentially confusing question.
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Just curious if anyone has a general idea of what the training footprint might look like for a new hire?
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Originally Posted by LineUpAndPay
(Post 3288713)
Just curious if anyone has a general idea of what the training footprint might look like for a new hire?
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Originally Posted by EagleVol
(Post 3288734)
Indoc takes a couple weeks, during indoc you’ll bid for aircraft training dates. Once you start aircraft training, it takes about a month. You could have up to a month off in between aircraft training and indoc, so the whole thing takes anywhere from 2 to 3 months.
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Hey guys.
I'm at a non-AA regional. 3600h TT (all civilian fixed wing): 2000h Part 121, 900h 121 TPIC, line check pilot, ALPA safety fatigue chairman and mentor. No check-ride failure, no DUIs, etc. However I don't have a 4 years degree yet (30 more credits to go). Should I even bother applying? |
Originally Posted by Montcalm
(Post 3290432)
Hey guys.
I'm at a non-AA regional. 3600h TT (all civilian fixed wing): 2000h Part 121, 900h 121 TPIC, line check pilot, ALPA safety fatigue chairman and mentor. No check-ride failure, no DUIs, etc. However I don't have a 4 years degree yet (30 more credits to go). Should I even bother applying? |
Has anyone been invited to interview since they have re-opened their website for applications?
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