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Old 06-22-2021 | 08:32 AM
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Fortunately most pilots still enjoy the gig. It'd be miserable to have to fly with guys like this on a regular basis.
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Old 06-22-2021 | 08:33 AM
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You get phone calls about go arounds?

man there is a lot of poopooing of this job.

Also, “just go be a nurse anesthetist” is 6 years of schooling maybe shave a couple with transfer credits.
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Old 06-22-2021 | 09:09 AM
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So, are all these cancellations a sign that pilots are avoiding DOTC and the effort is “working” to incentivize the company to improve the scheduling process? Lots of stories about pilots proffering a four day that turns into a two day, etc.
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Old 06-22-2021 | 09:37 AM
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I know plenty of guys who either refuse to use DOTC because of the bait and switch or just can’t be bothered to deal with its awful interface.
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Old 06-22-2021 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by watch
Even with the cuts American is flying 15-30% or more than Delta and United. will that mean more revenue? It hasn’t in the past, but maybe now after cutting 30000 employees and simplifying the fleet? The 2nd quarter report will be interesting.



why isn’t American projecting a robust hiring schedule next year. I don’t get why Delta needs 200 pilots a month if American only needs 50



Could the American pilots currently soak up this demand if there were delta style (200%) green slips?
Didn't Delta get like 3,000 pilots to take thre early outs? What did we get? About 1,000? Could have something to do with it.
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Old 06-22-2021 | 09:43 AM
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You get phone calls about go arounds?

man there is a lot of poopooing of this job.

Also, “just go be a nurse anesthetist” is 6 years of schooling maybe shave a couple with transfer credits.
Bachelors to BSN is 16 months, one year critical care (paid), three years of CRNA (which pays six figures while you're getting certified). Full-time CRNAs earn $200K +/- $50K (or more) year, depending on what part of the country you live in. Easy $250K in the midwest. Plenty of money to exercise your PPL privileges.

So yes, six years-while getting paid well into six figures at the three year point. Home every night. Go to the right clinic or office, no nights, no weekends, no holidays.

Poopooing? This is the reality of being an airline pilot, regional or major, in 2021. The days of one-leg domestic wide body trips to the five star hotel on the beach with a "Cadillac-paycheck" every month, as is often portrayed, are loooong gone. Airline pilot is a grueling, unstable career. The non-rev benefits are nice, but not even close to what they used to be. As the highest wage earner at the company, pilots are almost always the "bad guy." Just ask AA management who's responsible for all of those cancellations this past weekend.
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Old 06-22-2021 | 09:52 AM
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^^^ sounds like you got into the industry for all the wrong reasons. Seems like now would be a good time for you to jump ship and do something else. Good luck!
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Old 06-22-2021 | 10:14 AM
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The grueling life of an AA pilot
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Old 06-22-2021 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by biigD
^^^ sounds like you got into the industry for all the wrong reasons. Seems like now would be a good time for you to jump ship and do something else. Good luck!
Will do! Before I go, however, what are the "right" reasons for getting into this career?

Just remember, this thread started with loganeich posting that he was going to leave a six-figure career to start at a regional in hopes of eventually getting hired by a major and earning $300K+/year. His daughter isn't even driving age yet and his wife thinks doing this is crazy. I agree with is wife.

Just trying to paint realistic expectations for the guy. Starting this career as a 42 year-old retired O5 with no hopes of promotion or another flying assignment is one thing. It's another thing thing to leave a six-figure career for a regional job in hopes of one day, barring no swan events or a recession, getting hired at a major and holding enough seniority to earn $300K, just because you like flying.

Loganeich, good luck!
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Old 06-22-2021 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Why ARE you leaving a six-figure job to start at a regional? Unless you’re a military pilot, I don’t understand why you would do this.

Regional and even mainline QOL isn’t as competitive to non-flying careers as it used to be: 4-5 legs a day, commuting, poor entry pay, deicing, short layovers, dealing with the craziness of post-CV travel, and the overall instability of the industry, I’m not sure why anyone other than military (who have or will have a pension, and have few other marketable skills) would want to get in this industry, especially from a six-figure career.
It's also about what you love to do I never thought of flying as a job I was getting paid to do something I loved to do.
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