Route66

Random selections at KCM (and complaints) increasing at KCM checkpoints (I know this first hand)
Southwest and American flight crews are having major issues.
Only one thing will solve the issues:

ONE group of pilots, ONE set of PRINCIPLES, ONE set of pay and work rules and ONE FACE BEFORE CONGRESS!

If you are going to fight against the companies taking back government from the Taliban Socialist Agency (TSA) is the only answer.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...tendants-union

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...atens-protests

Myfingershurt

I kinda prefer each pilot group having their own MEC. There’s enough different ideas in our pilot group without having to deal with all the other problems in every other pilot group that would come with a national pilot union. And it would just cause smaller groups to be even more underrepresented than they are now. TSA isn’t going anywhere. It’s been 20 years. They are now to entrenched to the bureaucracy machine.

Approach1260

Socialism:
Socialism is a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, and democratic control, such as workers' self-management of enterprises.

It's ironic that what you're suggesting of all airline employees banding together to make things run better is pretty much the textbook definition of Socialism.

AllYourBaseAreB

He is talking about unionism. Not trying to take over management…

Route66

Well, having all these divided pilots throughout our system is getting you what, exactly? We have a product. Supply and demand. Pure and simple. An association is a business, and consequently it should be run like one. Funneling supply through a single channel simply gives the group more power to provide a product that we control. The TSA , however, provides no service other than to strip you and inspect you for something you don't have and knowingly do not need to bring to do your job.

Look, I know it won't happen. Pilots don't think like businessmen. You invest in the career but really have no leverage....not without a single point of focus. Why couldn't a "union" look like a franchise with franchisees? Talk about different MEC's, it be more like providing a standard product across the country. Strength in numbers???

Route66

I disagree with both premises. Every franchise has its issue, but national unity smoothes the peaks and troughs. "Smaller" groups wouldn't exist. It would be one group. TSA keeps beating our group into the ground. You've been background checked enough. How much more do you want? Lastly, where and in what state are the pilot "unions" in now? See my threadstarter post above.

However, why can't anybody just say, "yes, after what we've had for 80 years, maybe its time for something different that just may solve many of our problems and issues"?

Myfingershurt

What exactly has TSA done to make your life so brutal? I get that random spot checks are a pain in the butt, however they don’t happen everyday. Not even once a trip. And if they delay the flight, make sure the delay is coded properly and let management deal with it.

Saabs

I’m not even gonna click on the article. Nothing has changed with TSA or KCM to me since it’s started. Well, other than the long line at CLT.

Kebert Xela

I disagree. I've had it 3 days in a row on a 4 day. Other crew members have told me the same. I get the logic, pass the check then they let their guard down.

I'm saying it does happen multiple times within a trip

Drum

Disagree. My anecdotal experience is its happening more often. If you are in line with 3-5 others, one of you is getting it. Better hope it isn't at LAX either. Now that the "Clear" people have taken over the left hand escalator (how'd that happen) its a nice haul over to the Pre Check line. Where they tell you, while you stand there in uniform, that you can't go thru pre, you have to go thru the regular line (a recent policy change there I guess??)

You betcha we code it - to what exactly the PPX codes - which one do you use?