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Old 03-10-2022 | 09:23 AM
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Old 03-10-2022 | 10:16 AM
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Overdue. The posItives of merging far outweigh the negatives IMHO.
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Old 03-10-2022 | 11:14 AM
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What would the advantages/disadvantages be. Let's be real about this. The same gentleman and ladies running APA, will also most likely be voted in ALPA if put on property. Only one thing changes that I know of.... Higher union dues. The same thing people are complaining about now, will be the SAME things complained about with ANY new union representation. Are you/we not happy with the APA as an organization of our representation or are we not happy with the people in office which represents us, we the people/pilots can change that through a votes not change in organization.
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Old 03-10-2022 | 11:23 AM
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B6 alpa is worse than my previous teamsters and from what I’ve seen in 20 years. Just as bad as apa. Just an outside view but my alpa no longer speaks for me
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Old 03-10-2022 | 11:30 AM
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If someone puts together a solid drive and can articulate why a move to ALPA is in our best interest, I'm happy to give it some serious thought. But so far every attempt has seemed half assed, and someone needs to tell me how the same union leadership under a different name will somehow change the results.

But I have an open mind - clearly what we're doing now isn't working.
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Old 03-10-2022 | 11:47 AM
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There a list of all those who blew off negotiations in order to pick up premium flying? Might be a good place to start a 'gotta go' list.
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Old 03-10-2022 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blueballs
B6 alpa is worse than my previous teamsters and from what I’ve seen in 20 years. Just as bad as apa. Just an outside view but my alpa no longer speaks for me
Yeah. Current B6ALPA sucks. Real bad. And ALPA National is equally as terrible. DeBiden is a horrible National leader. I’d hold what y’all got at APA tbh. ALPA won’t solve your problems imo. They’ll just charge you more to not represent your interests and make you angrier. But, I’m just an outsider who tossed his ALPA lanyard in the garbage last year.
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Old 03-10-2022 | 02:06 PM
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ALPA vs. APA

Get Union headquarters out of DFW. Too many APA committee members go right to management positions.
Direct knowledge of other ALPA airlines contract language.
Safety in numbers.
Bigger lobbying presence in DC. More money to grease the politicians.
Pattern bargaining.
Mergers.
Better structure. LEC CA and FO reps.

I know ALPA isn’t perfect but APA has been getting its ass kicked for a long time.
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Old 03-10-2022 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rroku
There a list of all those who blew off negotiations in order to pick up premium flying? Might be a good place to start a 'gotta go' list.
Where do you get that list?
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Old 03-10-2022 | 05:16 PM
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No thanks.
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