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Old 06-21-2022 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Expand on this thought? More than a sound bite?

It would take too long to highlight all the areas where the APA negotiated contract lags our peers. But I think it's safe to say our contract has significantly trailed our peers for a long time. We will always have comprable hourly pay rates but beyond that all bets are off. I don't think APA is up to the task for closing the gap in work rules, QOL, and total compensation. A merger with ALPA is probably our best hope for catching up. Possibly a few thousand retirements off the top will help. A lot of our senior pilots don't even realize how far we've fallen behind our legacy peers and I doubt they care much.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SoftHands
Settle a bet for me, please. How many years on property does the WB captain plug have at AA? An acquaintance claims he has been there for 6 years and is on the 787 as a captain.
1999 hire, lol.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
1999 hire, lol.
I think there are a couple exceptions in the schoolhouse.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SoftHands
Settle a bet for me, please. How many years on property does the WB captain plug have at AA? An acquaintance claims he has been there for 6 years and is on the 787 as a captain.
You mean you read a reddit thread and couldn't do the math?
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Old 09-09-2025 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SoftHands
Settle a bet for me, please. How many years on property does the WB captain plug have at AA? An acquaintance claims he has been there for 6 years and is on the 787 as a captain.
If he truly is the random dude that is a 787 CKA waaaaay out of seniority to hold it, he is a little biotch working at 737 rates to fly a 787…
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Old 09-09-2025 | 10:32 AM
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I mean to be fair, I have flown with plenty of 6-year CAs with wide bodies…
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Old 09-09-2025 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SoftHands
Settle a bet for me, please. How many years on property does the WB captain plug have at AA? An acquaintance claims he has been there for 6 years and is on the 787 as a captain.
is his name Tim Martins????
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Old 09-09-2025 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AAL24
It would take too long to highlight all the areas where the APA negotiated contract lags our peers. But I think it's safe to say our contract has significantly trailed our peers for a long time. We will always have comprable hourly pay rates but beyond that all bets are off. I don't think APA is up to the task for closing the gap in work rules, QOL, and total compensation. A merger with ALPA is probably our best hope for catching up. Possibly a few thousand retirements off the top will help. A lot of our senior pilots don't even realize how far we've fallen behind our legacy peers and I doubt they care much.
Give examples. You are speaking in bland generalities to slam APA with zero specifics. If you are advocating switching unions at least make an intelligent argument.
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Old 09-10-2025 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by adam28
is his name Tim Martins????
tell me you’ve been 121 for at least 17 years without telling me. Poor Timmy, probably still needs to have the best story.
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Old 09-10-2025 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
I mean to be fair, I have flown with plenty of 6-year CAs with wide bodies…
that one flew right by everyone, I think.
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