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Originally Posted by Snake1234
(Post 3496024)
You are correct on schedule flexibility. Who gives a **** about first year pilots, I’m serious. Lastly, what is not disappointing for a pay raise? Define it. 18% is not bad. After 2 years, a NB CA would nearly make what our WB CA make today at the 12 year pay mark.
Wow, showing a bit of your character there. Anyway, after 2 years your NB CA would make nearly what your NB CA makes now. Inflation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Snake1234
(Post 3496031)
Define acceptable pay raise, and justify it.
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Originally Posted by Snake1234
(Post 3496024)
You are correct on schedule flexibility. Who gives a **** about first year pilots, I’m serious. Lastly, what is not disappointing for a pay raise? Define it. 18% is not bad. After 2 years, a NB CA would nearly make what our WB CA make today at the 12 year pay mark.
Don't give a crap about anyone but yourself it appears. Are you one of our new check airman that took a job everyone told you not to take? |
Ahhh, the inflation argument. Ok, let’s dig in. With the current movement, you can hold NB CA in under three years. So let’s focus there as the incentives in place push the pilot group that direction. In a 10/5/3 scenario, a NB CA at 7 years (3 year upgrade, roughly 3 year raise period) would make roughly 354K at 80 hours/mo. Inflation only affects your cost bucket. Housing, transportation, groceries. What is that cost bucket compared to your salary? Housing for the vast part of a pilot group is stable, the other costs went up. However, your salary going up from 275K to 354K eclipses your costs by thousands of dollars. Let’s debate with facts, the argument that it doesn’t keep up with inflation is dumb and mathematically illiterate.
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Originally Posted by Snake1234
(Post 3496051)
Ahhh, the inflation argument. Ok, let’s dig in. With the current movement, you can hold NB CA in under three years. So let’s focus there as the incentives in place push the pilot group that direction. In a 10/5/3 scenario, a NB CA at 7 years (3 year upgrade, roughly 3 year raise period) would make roughly 354K at 80 hours/mo. Inflation only affects your cost bucket. Housing, transportation, groceries. What is that cost bucket compared to your salary? Housing for the vast part of a pilot group is stable, the other costs went up. However, your salary going up from 275K to 354K eclipses your costs by thousands of dollars. Let’s debate with facts, the argument that it doesn’t keep up with inflation is dumb and mathematically illiterate.
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Originally Posted by Snake1234
(Post 3496051)
Ahhh, the inflation argument. Ok, let’s dig in. With the current movement, you can hold NB CA in under three years. So let’s focus there as the incentives in place push the pilot group that direction. In a 10/5/3 scenario, a NB CA at 7 years (3 year upgrade, roughly 3 year raise period) would make roughly 354K at 80 hours/mo. Inflation only affects your cost bucket. Housing, transportation, groceries. What is that cost bucket compared to your salary? Housing for the vast part of a pilot group is stable, the other costs went up. However, your salary going up from 275K to 354K eclipses your costs by thousands of dollars. Let’s debate with facts, the argument that it doesn’t keep up with inflation is dumb and mathematically illiterate.
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I would like to see 15% DOS, 5%, 5%. Not DOS + 1 but I'm Jan 1st. I would also like to see continues pay increase of min 3% annually after CBA expires... indefinite. Three years without a raise, full retro!
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As far as NB FO you want to be compensated, you will be at the exact same percentage, but starting at a rate about 100K less per annum. It still keeps pace with inflation, because…math.
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Originally Posted by NotPhlying
(Post 3496064)
I would like to see 15% DOS, 5%, 5%. Not DOS + 1 but I'm Jan 1st. I would also like to see continues pay increase of min 3% annually after CBA expires... indefinite. Three years without a raise, full retro!
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Originally Posted by Snake1234
(Post 3496073)
As far as NB FO you want to be compensated, you will be at the exact same percentage, but starting at a rate about 100K less per annum. It still keeps pace with inflation, because…math.
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