Originally Posted by Snake1234 (Post 3496051)

Ahhh, the inflation argument. Ok, let’s dig in. With the current movement, you can hold NB CA in under three years. So let’s focus there as the incentives in place push the pilot group that direction. In a 10/5/3 scenario, a NB CA at 7 years (3 year upgrade, roughly 3 year raise period) would make roughly 354K at 80 hours/mo. Inflation only affects your cost bucket. Housing, transportation, groceries. What is that cost bucket compared to your salary? Housing for the vast part of a pilot group is stable, the other costs went up. However, your salary going up from 275K to 354K eclipses your costs by thousands of dollars. Let’s debate with facts, the argument that it doesn’t keep up with inflation is dumb and mathematically illiterate.

Originally Posted by RadialRover (Post 3496075)

Except it doesn’t, and without any meaningful QoL improvements. Current update from NC is a total loser.

Originally Posted by NotPhlying (Post 3496064)

I would also like to see continues pay increase of min 3% annually after CBA expires... indefinite!

Originally Posted by RadialRover (Post 3496075)

Except it doesn’t, and without any meaningful QoL improvements. Current update from NC is a total loser.

Originally Posted by NotPhlying (Post 3496083)

Say what??? Current 7 year pay is $268. Under the new CBA at 80 hours pay will end up being...

Year 7 $294 per hour ($282K)
Year 8 $312 per hour ($300K)
Year 9 $323 per hour ($310K)

401k will increase the salaries by $45K, $48K, $50K.
Problem is we haven't had a raise in 3 years.

Originally Posted by Snake1234 (Post 3496089)

Spell it out. Don’t just *****. What is not meaningful about the proposed AIP QOL improvements? You want mo money? Ok. How much?

Originally Posted by Snake1234 (Post 3496091)

Yes, I included the 401K into the total amount, because that is what will happen.

Originally Posted by Snake1234 (Post 3496101)

You mean whining, not generalizations. Why not get specific? Why not spell out what is a “good deal” instead of incipient complaining?

Originally Posted by NotPhlying (Post 3496100)

If you've been at the top of the NB scale since 2019 you didn't get a raise for 3 years. NW 12 year CA should be making $309 per hours (3/3/3) as of today... that's $5 less then what the top NB will be making in 3 years under the current proposal (10/5/3). We need to bring the rates up to what they should have been then consider pay increase.