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uavking 02-17-2023 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3593714)
Not that bad, but the crappy part is that if a class junior to you gets a better drop, you're screwed.

Between MIDT and a (roughly) quarterly bid, how exactly is one screwed?

JulesWinfield 02-17-2023 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by uavking (Post 3593722)
Between MIDT and a (roughly) quarterly bid, how exactly is one screwed?

A pilot junior to you gets a base that you want immediately, while you have to wait for the effective date of a quarterly bid.

aggieflyboy 02-17-2023 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3593728)
A pilot junior to you gets a base that you want immediately, while you have to wait for the effective date of a quarterly bid.

Actually that helps you for mutual base exchanges because you wouldn’t be the plug

JulesWinfield 02-17-2023 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by aggieflyboy (Post 3593735)
Actually that helps you for mutual base exchanges because you wouldn’t be the plug

Yeah, assuming someone wants to move from somewhere else to LGA, which I don't think will be the case very often.

thrust 02-19-2023 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3590580)
Top Men are claiming that 401k and pay effective date at date of hire are in APA’s updated proposal. One Top Man claims the ask even includes retro for those particular items.

Ball’s in Robert’s court. You’ll see how much he values labor. Or, more accurately, Lucretia Guia’s court, since Robert farms out these type of things so he can hide and avoid making tough decisions.

Bump.

Top Men were correct. Both 401k at date of hire and change to new hire pay effective date are both in APA’s updated proposal. See latest Negotiations Update.

“APA doesn’t care about new hires and won’t even ask!” has been completely destroyed.

ImSoSuss 02-19-2023 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3594367)
Bump.

Top Men were correct. Both 401k at date of hire and change to new hire pay effective date are both in APA’s updated proposal. See latest Negotiations Update.

“APA doesn’t care about new hires and won’t even ask!” has been completely destroyed.

Encouraging news if actually true. I think that APA doesn't have to use any negotiating capital for this as AA realizes how quickly quality applicants are running out and it will be a war between the top Airlines for the best candidates.

thrust 02-19-2023 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3594380)
Encouraging news if actually true. I think that APA doesn't have to use any negotiating capital for this as AA realizes how quickly quality applicants are running out and it will be a war between the top Airlines for the best candidates.

Yep. AA can and should fix those things right now, on their own. Zero requirement for APA to even ask for it. But AA management won’t do anything that makes sense when it comes to “giving” something to the pilots for “free”.

So at least APA has it in the ask.

Bbaum 02-23-2023 10:27 AM

3/1 Class

LGA/FO/737/I 5

MIA/FO/737/I 4

LGA/FO/737/D 13

DCA/FO/320/I 4

PHL/FO/320/I 3

LGA/FO/320/D 18

Maxxter 02-23-2023 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Bbaum (Post 3596856)
3/1 Class

LGA/FO/737/I 5

MIA/FO/737/I 4

LGA/FO/737/D 13

DCA/FO/320/I 4

PHL/FO/320/I 3

LGA/FO/320/D 18

Still no MIA 320 "cry me a river" bummer

StoleIt 02-23-2023 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Bbaum (Post 3596856)
DCA/FO/320/I 4

Can anyone describe to me the difference in flying between the DCA 320s and 737s? Feel free to PM to not hijack the thread.

TIA!


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