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TransWorld 02-03-2023 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by WhyIFly (Post 3585521)
The West Coast is quickly dying a terrible death. I just hope they don't bring their garbage politics to places like Texas. They already destroyed California, no need to move on and destroy even more states.

My understanding of those moving to Texas and Florida, a majority are red, not blue. That’s what the surveys are showing. Dr. Thomas Sowell would call it self sorting.

Beech Dude 02-04-2023 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3585580)
My understanding of those moving to Texas and Florida, a majority are red, not blue. That’s what the surveys are showing. Dr. Thomas Sowell would call it self sorting.

This is absolutely happening. The blue folks are fleeing FL as well. Broward isn't what it used to be and Collier is quickly catching up...all good things. America is a free country and they're free to go back to Cali and NY and deal with the idiots, drugs, and high taxes.

Pilot X 02-04-2023 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3585857)
This is absolutely happening. The blue folks are fleeing FL as well. Broward isn't what it used to be and Collier is quickly catching up...all good things. America is a free country and they're free to go back to Cali and NY and deal with the idiots, drugs, and high taxes.

so there’s no drug trade in Florida? :D

Beech Dude 02-04-2023 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot X (Post 3585863)
so there’s no drug trade in Florida? :D

Oh there absolutely is; never going to dispute that. I was referring to tax-payer funded junkie clinics and the daily open air use of hard drugs and crime rampant in every major city in California. Ok, apologies correcting drift...back to drops.

TransWorld 02-04-2023 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3585857)
This is absolutely happening. The blue folks are fleeing FL as well. Broward isn't what it used to be and Collier is quickly catching up...all good things. America is a free country and they're free to go back to Cali and NY and deal with the idiots, drugs, and high taxes.

The reds are fleeing CA and NY. Some blues are fleeing TX and FL. Some blues in TX and FL are converting to red. (As examples are Cuban Immigrants in FL now voting red, in higher proportions.) Self sorting.

chihuahua 02-11-2023 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3585871)
The reds are fleeing CA and NY. Some blues are fleeing TX and FL. Some blues in TX and FL are converting to red. (As examples are Cuban Immigrants in FL now voting red, in higher proportions.) Self sorting.

The Cubans and most normal Americans don't want the school taking little Juan and turning him into little Juanita and telling the parents that they'll lose their kid if they don't agree. The blue party was completely taken over by the psychos from NYC, Coastal CA, and the tech industry. During 2020 when parents started seeing some of what was being taught in the schools, the changes started happening, at least in middle America and most of the South.

ImSoSuss 02-11-2023 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot X (Post 3585863)
so there’s no drug trade in Florida? :D

- No 401K contribution your first year
- Your second year pay won't start until a year and a half after your hire date, that will remain your pay-date for the rest of your career.

These two things combined will result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost retirement income.

Unlike Delta and United where new hires get a wide range of base and aircraft choices (including widebodies) right out of class, you will get 737 or A320 in LGA and MIA with a hope and a prayer you get the base you want within your first year. This was the last class drop:

MIA FO 737 I - 5
LGA FO 737 D - 17
PHL FO 320 I - 6
LGA FO 320 D - 21

An established old guard who stimey progress at this airline in the name of decades old grudges. Were more than happy to lock us into a subpar TA while the other Legacies leapfrog us in pay and continue to be light-years ahead in QOL.

Lot to consider for people who have a choice in what airline they want to spend the rest of their life at.

Red Forman 02-11-2023 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3590139)
- No 401K contribution your first year
- Your second year pay won't start until a year and a half after your hire date, that will remain your pay-date for the rest of your career.

These two things combined will result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost retirement income.

Unlike Delta and United where new hires get a wide range of base and aircraft choices (including widebodies) right out of class, you will get 737 or A320 in LGA and MIA with a hope and a prayer you get the base you want within your first year. This was the last class drop:

MIA FO 737 I - 5
LGA FO 737 D - 17
PHL FO 320 I - 6
LGA FO 320 D - 21

An established old guard who stimey progress at this airline in the name of decades old grudges. Were more than happy to lock us into a subpar TA while the other Legacies leapfrog us in pay and continue to be light-years ahead in QOL.

Lot to consider for people who have a choice in what airline they want to spend the rest of their life at.

Could you at least try and not be so dramatically dishonest?

LBFO79 02-11-2023 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 3590153)
Could you at least try and not be so dramatically dishonest?

every detail this person listed is 100% accurate. Where is he being dishonest? He listed facts and gave some dramatic opinions in addition.

The opinions are opinions and are based on the horrible state of our airline and union. Both are perfect for one another. They each operate in Cooperation with one another that will ensure AA pilots remain at the bottom of the industry. We have former APA pilots helping the company negotiate against us.

I guess i just don't see where this post is dishonest. I know you love to reply to posts you don't like and call them lies, but let's not be so obvious about it, since everyone else can recognize what was said as accurate.

Red Forman 02-11-2023 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by LBFO79 (Post 3590165)
every detail this person listed is 100% accurate. Where is he being dishonest? He listed facts and gave some dramatic opinions in addition.

The opinions are opinions and are based on the horrible state of our airline and union. Both are perfect for one another. They each operate in Cooperation with one another that will ensure AA pilots remain at the bottom of the industry. We have former APA pilots helping the company negotiate against us.

I guess i just don't see where this post is dishonest. I know you love to reply to posts you don't like and call them lies, but let's not be so obvious about it, since everyone else can recognize what was said as accurate.

It’s a fact that year 2 pay starts 1.5 years for everyone? Is it not normal for new hires being based in less than desirable locations? The horror of having to commute for a few months before you can have the base of your choosing. The only factual thing he listed was the 401k. Just be honest, there is no need to distort things to push a narrative.


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