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Old 04-24-2023 | 10:27 AM
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Sorry about the incredibly stupid question ( Jokes are allowed)

But what this Class drops mean?
How many spots is available in each base ?? Or how many pilots bided for that base?
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Old 04-24-2023 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bmaggiori
Sorry about the incredibly stupid question ( Jokes are allowed)

But what this Class drops mean?
How many spots is available in each base ?? Or how many pilots bided for that base?
The number available is right next to the base and fleet. Those numbers will match the number of people in each class. Oldest bids first.
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Old 04-24-2023 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Setspeed
The number available is right next to the base and fleet. Those numbers will match the number of people in each class. Oldest bids first.
Ah got it... so the number of spots available for each base...
Thanks !! !
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Old 04-28-2023 | 10:53 AM
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05/03 class drop


MIA/FO/737/I 4

LGA/FO/737/D 18

MIA/FO/320/I 11

LGA/FO/320/D 25
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Old 04-28-2023 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mando0530
05/03 class drop


MIA/FO/737/I 4

LGA/FO/737/D 18

MIA/FO/320/I 11

LGA/FO/320/D 25
ooof, what variety lol. The good news is it looks like they are bumping up class sizes before the break as well as after (which they already stated). 58 slots.
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Old 04-28-2023 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
ooof, what variety lol. The good news is it looks like they are bumping up class sizes before the break as well as after (which they already stated). 58 slots.
I knew that’s what they would do as soon as I saw June cancellations. AA still needs the pilots. It’s just a way to subvert contractual obligations. At least this time, the guys “getting screwed” are making a lot of money getting screwed. lol.
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Old 04-28-2023 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I knew that’s what they would do as soon as I saw June cancellations. AA still needs the pilots. It’s just a way to subvert contractual obligations. At least this time, the guys “getting screwed” are making a lot of money getting screwed. lol.
Please elaborate, thanks.
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Old 04-28-2023 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheriff Bart
Please elaborate, thanks.
They have to flow a certain amount of wholey owned regional pilots every month they hire pilots per their contracts with those groups. Regionals are having staffing issues, including the WO regionals. Take a month off of hiring and no contractual obligation to flow pilots from the WO that month, relieving staffing issues there. Increase class sizes in other months and AA still hires the same number of total pilots, the difference being fewer of them have to come from their WO regionals. AAG has done this in the past and I’ve always considered this practice a bit of dirty trick that doesn’t live to the spirit of their contractual obligations. But those groups are so highly paid right now ($214/hr base plus some other incintivised pay plus some bonuses), I bet some (not all of course), are not too disappointed this time. In essence, one can enjoy getting screwed.

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Old 04-28-2023 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I knew that’s what they would do as soon as I saw June cancellations. AA still needs the pilots. It’s just a way to subvert contractual obligations. At least this time, the guys “getting screwed” are making a lot of money getting screwed. lol.
Yep, I won't shed one tear for someone making $450 an hour.
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Old 04-28-2023 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
Yep, I won't shed one tear for someone making $450 an hour.
Yeah, I was about to dispute the $450 per hour number because it’s not really an accurate portrayal, but when you consider the various bonuses and overrides and 300% OT and whatnot, I bet actual pay for most 6 year WO captains is pretty close to the equivalent of $450 per hour mainline pay at the end of the month.
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