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Old 02-04-2024 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by UtahGetMe2
There seems to be mixed rumors about whether the 320 would be an additional fleet or a replacement fleet. i.e. 737 and 320, or just 320.

The newsletter implies the latter by saying they want to make BOS "an A320 base," and that it would be a "better solution than what we have now."

I wish they would clarify, because I hear guys talking about it and many are assuming there will be both fleet types in BOS.
Your post is the first time I've ever heard of this "rumor". Flipping the switch from 737 only to 320 only doesn't make much sense for such a risk-averse management team.
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Old 02-04-2024 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by UtahGetMe2
There seems to be mixed rumors about whether the 320 would be an additional fleet or a replacement fleet. i.e. 737 and 320, or just 320.

The newsletter implies the latter by saying they want to make BOS "an A320 base," and that it would be a "better solution than what we have now."

I wish they would clarify, because I hear guys talking about it and many are assuming there will be both fleet types in BOS.

I highly doubt it. Never heard that one.
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Old 02-04-2024 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thrust
Your post is the first time I've ever heard of this "rumor". Flipping the switch from 737 only to 320 only doesn't make much sense for such a risk-averse management team.
It's all rumor-mill, but, the idea of both NBs in all the hubs is gaining some traction. BOS/73 is one of, if not the, smallest bid status. They may do it in BOS as a test run and then expand it to ORD, PHX, or PHL.
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Old 02-04-2024 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
It's all rumor-mill, but, the idea of both NBs in all the hubs is gaining some traction. BOS/73 is one of, if not the, smallest bid status. They may do it in BOS as a test run and then expand it to ORD, PHX, or PHL.
Agreed, and all signs point to that sooner or later- the one flavor of NB bases (BOS, ORD, PHX, PHL) might get both NBs on a long enough timeline. But simply swapping BOS 737 for BOS 320 makes no sense. The training cost would be immense.
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Old 03-01-2024 | 01:39 PM
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Hello, recent newhire that got BOS 737 in training. Long story short, we were furnished the wrong weekly class drop list so my attempt to do some research was for naught. Hoped for Airbus to be able to transfer home eventually but, here we are. By the time it got to me, options were Boston and New York and my split-second decision was to avoid having to be responsible for covering many airports as a probationary reserve. Re-reading this thread and seeing mixed signals, sometimes going junior and other times stagnation. Starting to wonder if I should have gone with LGA, especially as we are still awaiting any ground school dates and sounds like it could be a while…

Anyway so how’s things in Boston these days? As another commenter mentioned, I too am getting accustomed to all the apps and sites. At previous companies I’ve had access to pairings at each base and equipment, as well as lists that show the final run of PBS and allowed you to compare your relative seniority (kind of like an expanded 3xp but overlaid on the awards so you could see if you had a shot at a line, or deep into reserve territory, or couldn’t even get in). Do we have stuff like that?

Poking around open time I can see plenty of early start/late finish trips. Still pretty typical of the base? An earlier comment said reserve went senior sometimes and possibilities of junior lineholders. Still the case? Worth sticking around for a bit to be a junior lineholder, or should I try to bid/MBE elsewhere? I’ll be a West Coast commuter for a year seatlock, so first priority is minimizing the pain by trying to get a line, if at all possible.

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Check out the products on the APA TASC site. Lots of information and you can go back through months/years of PBS awards and get an idea of what your juniority can expect.
hmm maybe this answers one of my questions. Where exactly can I find TASC, still not 100% what all I’m looking at.
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Old 03-01-2024 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mammywhammy
Hello, recent newhire that got BOS 737 in training. Long story short, we were furnished the wrong weekly class drop list so my attempt to do some research was for naught. Hoped for Airbus to be able to transfer home eventually but, here we are. By the time it got to me, options were Boston and New York and my split-second decision was to avoid having to be responsible for covering many airports as a probationary reserve. Re-reading this thread and seeing mixed signals, sometimes going junior and other times stagnation. Starting to wonder if I should have gone with LGA, especially as we are still awaiting any ground school dates and sounds like it could be a while…

Anyway so how’s things in Boston these days? As another commenter mentioned, I too am getting accustomed to all the apps and sites. At previous companies I’ve had access to pairings at each base and equipment, as well as lists that show the final run of PBS and allowed you to compare your relative seniority (kind of like an expanded 3xp but overlaid on the awards so you could see if you had a shot at a line, or deep into reserve territory, or couldn’t even get in). Do we have stuff like that?

Poking around open time I can see plenty of early start/late finish trips. Still pretty typical of the base? An earlier comment said reserve went senior sometimes and possibilities of junior lineholders. Still the case? Worth sticking around for a bit to be a junior lineholder, or should I try to bid/MBE elsewhere? I’ll be a West Coast commuter for a year seatlock, so first priority is minimizing the pain by trying to get a line, if at all possible.


hmm maybe this answers one of my questions. Where exactly can I find TASC, still not 100% what all I’m looking at.
yes you should have gone LGA, 320, but too late. We have lost a lot of products with the loss of Litesabre. That said, we do in fact have a product for seeing everyone's schedule award. A lot of people don't know it exists, they all talk about 3xp and expanded 3xp. The report you want is in the same spot as those but is called the "PBS Award Report" it has a ton of details about each persons schedule including a link to their trips, days off, what layer they solved in, coverage days, etc.
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Old 03-01-2024 | 02:36 PM
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yes you should have gone LGA, 320, but too late. We have lost a lot of products with the loss of Litesabre. That said, we do in fact have a product for seeing everyone's schedule award. A lot of people don't know it exists, they all talk about 3xp and expanded 3xp. The report you want is in the same spot as those but is called the "PBS Award Report" it has a ton of details about each persons schedule including a link to their trips, days off, what layer they solved in, coverage days, etc.
Yeah I went in thinking I had a shot. Coming from an Airbus operator, and my home only has Airbus based there, I thought I had a shot. What was supposed to be a pretty good spread (40% 320 60% 737), turned out to be only 10 Airbus out of 44 slots, and those were all gone pretty much instantly. I should try being more senior, I know. One of the few times being young wasn’t an average haha. Our class really skewed kinda old that week.

Anyway thank you. I found that list that shows number of lines and reserves awarded by base/seat. As well as the bid packages. Much appreciated.
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Old 03-01-2024 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mammywhammy
Yeah I went in thinking I had a shot. Coming from an Airbus operator, and my home only has Airbus based there, I thought I had a shot. What was supposed to be a pretty good spread (40% 320 60% 737), turned out to be only 10 Airbus out of 44 slots, and those were all gone pretty much instantly. I should try being more senior, I know. One of the few times being young wasn’t an average haha. Our class really skewed kinda old that week.

Anyway thank you. I found that list that shows number of lines and reserves awarded by base/seat. As well as the bid packages. Much appreciated.

You’ll be totally fine, don’t worry. The two commutes are practically the same either way and not having to try to two leg it to LGA from the west coast is a favor to you. The 5am reports out of EWR absolutely suck if you’re coming from a crashpad in Queens. You’re not missing anything.

Have fun in the BOS base for now and you’ll be able to commute to LAX or DFW 737 in no time. I really wouldn’t worry about it. Although LAX 737 is a small base, one of the bottom FOs was holding a line every month because so many bid SC.

The only thing you’re missing on the west coast on the Airbus is PHX which remains senior in both seats either way.

As a former Airbus driver forced to the 737, I have learned to love it. It’ll take about 250 hours and then the Stockholm syndrome will set in.
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Old 03-01-2024 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mammywhammy
Yeah I went in thinking I had a shot. Coming from an Airbus operator, and my home only has Airbus based there, I thought I had a shot. What was supposed to be a pretty good spread (40% 320 60% 737), turned out to be only 10 Airbus out of 44 slots, and those were all gone pretty much instantly. I should try being more senior, I know. One of the few times being young wasn’t an average haha. Our class really skewed kinda old that week.

Anyway thank you. I found that list that shows number of lines and reserves awarded by base/seat. As well as the bid packages. Much appreciated.
i misunderstood. I thought you turned down 320 LGA for 737 BOS. If it was between 737 BOS or LGA...that's macht nichts, won't matter at all, you'll get a closer base rapidly.
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Old 03-01-2024 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mammywhammy
Yeah I went in thinking I had a shot. Coming from an Airbus operator, and my home only has Airbus based there, I thought I had a shot. What was supposed to be a pretty good spread (40% 320 60% 737), turned out to be only 10 Airbus out of 44 slots, and those were all gone pretty much instantly. I should try being more senior, I know. One of the few times being young wasn’t an average haha. Our class really skewed kinda old that week.

Anyway thank you. I found that list that shows number of lines and reserves awarded by base/seat. As well as the bid packages. Much appreciated.
Just curious, how old were you in class and where did you fall as far as seniority in your class?
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