AA ups TA from $8.3B to $10.0B Deal !
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Word is out AA Management just Improved the previously
offered $8.3 Billion TA (Tentative Agreement) closer to a $10 Billion dollar deal
for its pilots.
Improvements to include Industry Leading Retro-Pay, Snap-up Provisions, Accelerated Future Wage Increases to name a few…
This is Great News for AA pilots !
More details to follow…
offered $8.3 Billion TA (Tentative Agreement) closer to a $10 Billion dollar deal
for its pilots.
Improvements to include Industry Leading Retro-Pay, Snap-up Provisions, Accelerated Future Wage Increases to name a few…

This is Great News for AA pilots !
More details to follow…
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Word is out AA Management just Improved the previously
offered $8.3 Billion TA (Tentative Agreement) closer to a $10 Billion dollar deal
for its pilots.
Improvements to include Industry Leading Retro-Pay, Snap-up Provisions, Accelerated Future Wage Increases to name a few…
This is Great News for AA pilots !
More details to follow…
offered $8.3 Billion TA (Tentative Agreement) closer to a $10 Billion dollar deal
for its pilots.
Improvements to include Industry Leading Retro-Pay, Snap-up Provisions, Accelerated Future Wage Increases to name a few…

This is Great News for AA pilots !
More details to follow…
No increase to sick time or vacation credit. What does this mean? No more time off. We actually will be working more under this TA than our current jcba. PBS Line values will go up in the summer months and in December too. Our reserves will not be getting an extra day off either.
Summary: none of what Isom offered dealt with QOL. It was all pay items, as expected. Still AA pilots will work more and enjoy worse trip rigs than United and delta. Also we still allowed concessions to our ACD and sit rigs.
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No increase to sick time or vacation credit. What does this mean? No more time off. We actually will be working more under this TA than our current jcba. PBS Line values will go up in the summer months and in December too. Our reserves will not be getting an extra day off either.
Summary: none of what Isom offered dealt with QOL. It was all pay items, as expected. Still AA pilots will work more and enjoy worse trip rigs than United and delta. Also we still allowed concessions to our ACD and sit rigs.
Summary: none of what Isom offered dealt with QOL. It was all pay items, as expected. Still AA pilots will work more and enjoy worse trip rigs than United and delta. Also we still allowed concessions to our ACD and sit rigs.
Unfortunately, even if you place a plate full of Gold in front of some people, they still find a way to complain about it…
Is it perfect ? No (I never said so)…
Is it a great improvement to the previously offered TA ? Yes… Now a $10 Billion dollar Deal !
For your own sake brother, have some positivity in your life.
Don’t sweat the small stuff fighting over what color Floor-Mats you’re getting, look at the overall Big-Picture.
Wish you the best…
Cheers
Last edited by diva; 07-21-2023 at 05:48 PM. Reason: ‘
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Unfortunately, even if you place a plate full of Gold in front of some people, they still find a way to complain about it…
Is it perfect ? No (I never said so)…
Is it a great improvement to the previously offered TA ? Yes… Now a $10 Billion dollar Deal !
For your own sake brother, have some positivity in your life.
Don’t focus on the nitty gritty fighting over what color Floor-Mats you’re getting, look at the overall Big-Picture.
Wish you the best…
Cheers
Is it perfect ? No (I never said so)…
Is it a great improvement to the previously offered TA ? Yes… Now a $10 Billion dollar Deal !
For your own sake brother, have some positivity in your life.
Don’t focus on the nitty gritty fighting over what color Floor-Mats you’re getting, look at the overall Big-Picture.
Wish you the best…
Cheers
It’s 9 billion. So we are worth a billion dollars less than UALs pilots apparently. Valuation is garbage anyway. A feel good meaningless placebo.
Wish you the best!
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You like how your A330 and 764 pay A350 rate now? You’re welcome
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Improvements to the TA to include the Following:
- Snap-up Pay in line with UA/DL
- Accelerated Future wage increases to take effect every January 1
- Ratification (Retro) bonus of 21% from January 2023
- Accelerated 401(k) increase (17%) start January 2024
- Increase in international override to $7/$5
- Increase in per diem to domestic $2.85/international $3.40
- Extended sick leave bank pre-loaded to 120 hours and accruing 4 hours per month in addition to previous accrual (120 hours)
- Medical freedom protections
- Max un-augmented duty day lesser of 13 hours or FAR 117 table B minus 30’
- Reserve “show, no go” pay increase to 5 hours
- 2-hour OG incentive for reserves volunteering to show and subsequently assigned prior to 1000 on day 1
- Hotel guarantees for reassignments outside original sequence footprint with no opportunity to commute to home of record that calendar day
- Maximum duty periods in sequence not to exceed number of calendar days
- Increase in life insurance coverage to $750,000 regardless of age
Last edited by diva; 07-21-2023 at 06:30 PM. Reason: ‘
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Improvements to the TA to include the Following:
- Snap-up Pay in line with UA/DL
- Accelerated Future wage increases to take effect every January 1
- Ratification (Retro) bonus of 21% from January 2023
- Accelerated 401(k) increase (17%) start January 2024
- Increase in international override to $7/$5
- Increase in per diem to domestic $2.85/international $3.40
- Extended sick leave bank pre-loaded to 120 hours and accruing 4 hours per month in addition to previous accrual (120 hours)
- Medical freedom protections
- Max un-augmented duty day lesser of 13 hours or FAR 117 table B minus 30’
- Reserve “show, no go” pay increase to 5 hours
- 2-hour OG incentive for reserves volunteering to show and subsequently assigned prior to 1000 on day 1
- Hotel guarantees for reassignments outside original sequence footprint with no opportunity to commute to home of record that calendar day
- Maximum duty periods in sequence not to exceed number of calendar days
- Increase in life insurance coverage to $750,000 regardless of age
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