I’ll take our sick any day. Somehow doing only 4 day trips I have accumulated over 500 hours sick time. It can be done.

Does Delta have annual cost of living adjustments to LTD? Yes it gets 401k.

stop cherry picking. This will be the best contract of my career.

See the question marks? Not facts stated. I don’t know your contract. I know mine and it’s great. 12 months pay for 10 months work. Thanks.

It's not cherry picking for me at least. It's a legit issue. If I could call in well, stop burning my sick time, go on LC, pick up open time to either recover pay or restore sick bank like UAL/DAL can, etc it would slightly help. But since you have that 500 hour bank, of course the only thing that benefits you is the payout at retirement. I am not a person that calls in sick just because I don't feel like working, or couldn't trade a trip, or angry for not being able to hold a holiday off. I call off because I am unfit to fly due to illness. I had to call out sick this year because a captain flew sick. Got me sick...... Thankfully that one was only a 2 day trip..... The real painful one was a 25 hour 4 day and I was better on Day 1. But nope had to burn all 25 hours..... I am glad you got a payout, but besides that one item, UAL/DAL have better rules for sick. And I am with you in that I think I prefer our and UAL system over Delta's use it or lose it. But UAL's system beats ours with the one exception of the payout.....

It's one of the heavy items on the no side of the scale for me. Not enough to get me to a no, but it's a huge negative to me that we couldn't rework the rules and get more accrual.

will solve absolutely nothing. Ask spirit guys how alpa did for them on the latest contract.

Or UAL with Tumi TA, or FedEx…

I’m in the “well, it can’t be any worse can it?” camp. The better/easier recall process alone make it worth a try in my mind.

APA is only this bad because of AA pilots. APA could be fixed, but AA pilots running APA chose not to.

Well if they'd quit being a thinly-veiled management internship program and focus on working for us, maybe we'd get something going.

More like 3 months off with a little effort. Around 76 hours paid each month for not turning a wheel.
Cherry pickers are out in force, but freely admit that DAL is farther into the post CHP11 and better run in terms of profitability than AA.
Remember, the guys running us ran an operation paying CA's $125/hour not long ago and decided PHL was a far better international hub than JFK.

The future will be interesting. Much of AA's high debt was due to refleeting. That is basically done. UAL and DAL have some big checks to write for jets at higher interest rates. We'll see.

You do understand that “not feeling going to work” means you’re probably not mentally fit? Which it means you can use your sick time. Sometimes we are burned out, but we choose to keep going.

Part of being a responsible person/pilot, is to identify when we need a mental break from work.

Unfit to fly does not only covers physical illness. It’s important that we stop thinking that only physical fitness is the only reason we can call sick.


FAA IMSAFE acronym, look it up if you haven’t.


Also remember this. AA/UAL profits for this quarter are based on the current contract. DAL profit are based in the new contract with new pay rates.

DAL made more money than both of the other carriers in this quarter. Also includes non contracts 4% payraise that was given in April.

And there is a big difference between burned out vs just not wanting to go to work due to bad work ethic, rather go to that event with friends, etc.

If burned out, sure perfectly understandable. I meant more along the lines of just want to blow off work because that trip was crap, it was over the weekend, etc.

Overall point is I’m not an abuser of our sick system. Which is why AA management dug in on this issue. They fear abuse.