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Originally Posted by Thatsapproved (Post 3674944)

I don’t get why people are so upset about the 2.0. I’m okay with living on coattails. Its
like college. I’d rather cheat of the smart kid then spend valuable drinking time studying lol

If you’re being serious…not the attitude we want to have lol

Braniff Christmas?

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Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 3674852)

APA’s structure, governance and bylaws are what hampers its ability to secure ILCs. Period, dot, end of sentence. It has nothing to do with AA pilots running it, or former US, or former AW, or whoever. You could have an army of the smartest pilots in charge of fixing it but they will fall flat on their faces - and they have over the years I’ve been here - simply due to the almost autonomous and absolute power the BOD has over everybody else in the union, including the NOs. At the end of the day, we live and die by the BOD’s actions. The ONLY time APA has made gains is when the membership itself has revolted or acted on its own against its leadership. (Braniff Christmas, Sept to Remember, etc.)
When a union only makes gains when its membership revolts, you’ve got a deeply flawed union.
There is indeed one way to fix APA. Schitt can it and replace it with ALPA.
Until that happens, we will trail the industry. It’s really that simple. The ILCs happening everywhere today except APA is proof.
AA pilots have been ham strung by APA for DECADES. It’s like being in a bad marriage with no way out. If you want to fault AA pilots, fault them for not going back to ALPA a lot sooner. Unfortunately, AA pilots have been “institutionalized” by APA’s actions over the decades and part of that has become ingrained in their DNA. That’ll take a while to purge, but it is possible - through a fresh start with ALPA.

I’ll end my rant with one more example of the BOD’s antics and why this union is so broken. Last spring, the ALPA exploratory committee actually RECOMMENDED to the BOD that, in their view, the next step in exploring an ALPA merger needed to proceed, based on their extensive research. In other words, the very committee that the BOD appointed to explore a merger with ALPA recommended we take the next step. And the BOD shot down ITS OWN COMMITTEE’S RECOMMENDATIONS immediately as the panic set in that their days might be numbered. Now, what does that tell you as to the question if APA can be fixed?

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3674934)

okay buddy. I guess it’s just hard for you to fathom that your airline’s management and your union lag the industry. Enjoy contract 2.0 or 3.0 or 3.5 or whatever it is.

A lot of the pilots there were content and lazy waiting to flow.. Their contract exemplifies the same laziness

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Originally Posted by Varks (Post 3674654)

I’ll take our sick any day. Somehow doing only 4 day trips I have accumulated over 500 hours sick time. It can be done.

Does Delta have annual cost of living adjustments to LTD? Yes it gets 401k.

stop cherry picking. This will be the best contract of my career.

Yeah, I built up hundreds of hours of sick time on the narrow body, because I was only flying 12-13 days a month and the trips were good. The new guys now will never see that, because they’re flying garbage trips, 16 days a month, and getting pounded into the ground. Very few of them I talk to have any sick time, it’s impossible to accumulate it.

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3674931)

There’s an imax compass guide. Read that.

Yes I’ve read it. It’s only 8 pages and is clearly written for someone familiar with the subject and not on reserve, the FAQ don’t address my questions. Hence why I asked for someone more versed in the subject to opine.

FYI: “go read a compass manual” is actually not helpful advice, nor does it answer the question. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3674849)

Delta has been and will continue paying for jets with cash. Go read their 10K’s…

Serious question because I see a common trend with Delta guys….do y’all have Delta posters in your rooms? Do y’all have weekly meetings where you sit in a big groups and talk about how much more awesome y’all are than others?

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Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3675042)

just because he is stating facts, does not make him a delta nerd

delta is better run, makes more money, has happier employees, has more pilots, and a much better contract. It’s unfortunately our reality because of how poor our airline and union are run.

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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 3674868)

No, I'm not going to do your assigned homework. I think DAL does a better job but still has to replace AC.

If you think paying cash for AC is a plan, you're dead and don't even know it.

Ask the NWA old guys about old NWA and the Checchi. Should be a good primer for all cash fleet.

Rules for leveraged buyouts have changed, bud.

But I’m sure you knew that.

maybe worry less about what another management team’s plan is, and more about raising the bar.

if, in fact, AA is on the tail end of its massive debt pay down , then it should have been even easier to raise the bar.

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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3675049)

maybe worry less about what another management team’s plan is, and more about raising the bar.

In his defense, you are the one commenting on another airline’s thread. You, along with the thread starter, started this whole thing unprovoked…

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Originally Posted by Varks (Post 3674654)

How many have you accumulated since COVID and the optimizer?