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Old 09-07-2025 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by IFR Cx Rcvd
3-5 months. July CJOs are being placed in October classes. 3 months if they run 4+ classes every month from October and beyond. 5 months if they start throttling classes but don’t pause. YMMV.
Friend was at recent Day 1 events. Said they were told "60 per week." There were 60 in the class he attended. That's 250+ a month. No word on how long it was going to run.


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Old 09-07-2025 | 11:29 AM
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Friend was at recent Day 1 events. Said they were told "60 per week." There were 60 in the class he attended. That's 250+ a month. No word on how long it was going to run.
That's good to hear. Recent history suggests it will run until they get scared. It isn't particularly clear what data scares them but that's the pattern. I would be very happy with 1,000 by the end of the year.
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Old 09-07-2025 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
That's good to hear. Recent history suggests it will run until they get scared. It isn't particularly clear what data scares them but that's the pattern. I would be very happy with 1,000 by the end of the year.
1k will roughly cover attrition and growth.
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Old 09-07-2025 | 03:15 PM
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Long range forecast still shows ~15k which is where it's been pretty consistently for a while now. Maybe they are just catching up due to being short after pausing hiring for 10 months or whatever it was.
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Old 09-07-2025 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Long range forecast still shows ~15k which is where it's been pretty consistently for a while now. Maybe they are just catching up due to being short after pausing hiring for 10 months or whatever it was.
I thought the LR forecast had summer of 2025 at
14.9. We had 15.75 at the end of July before they started hiring again. Now the forecast of 2026 has us at 15.2. We’re hiring another 1,000 this year (250 a month) and running 250 a month through 03/2026 to “catch up” on sooner than expected A/C delivery’s. We have another 250 retiring this year and 900ish retiring next year. Your math isn’t mathing and we should be well past 16k closing in on 17k by the end March 26’.

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Old 09-07-2025 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
I thought the LR forecast had summer of 2025 at
14.9. We had 15.75 at the end of July before they started hiring again. Now the forecast of 2026 has us at 15.2. We’re hiring another 1,000 this year (250 a month) and running 250 a month through 03/2026 to “catch up” on sooner than expected A/C delivery’s. We have another 250 retiring this year and 900ish retiring next year. Your math isn’t mathing and we should be well past 16k closing in on 17k by the end March 26’.
Keep in mind that historically 1,000 pilots on the list were on some type of leave (mostly medical). The forecast number is active pilots.

It's possible that with the better disability package those percentages are creeping hire. I agree though that the numbers by March will be above the target in the bid. Their math is hard to understand.
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Old 09-07-2025 | 08:36 PM
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The numbers change every week, I wouldn't worry about what they are looking for this week.

I would fill out the app and update it weekly and if your qualifications meet what they are looking for that particular day they will call. Internal recs, job fairs, etc all of course help a bunch but that's what I'd do.

I got called far sooner than I expected and when I was in indoc months later I was talking to an HR person and they mentioned that they were only considering people at my hours level for 1 or 2 weeks then things changed again. Having the app up to date and in got the call the very first day I had what they wanted vs waiting until you hear through the grape vine you might be competitive.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Point85ToTheFix
I got called far sooner than I expected and when I was in indoc months later I was talking to an HR person and they mentioned that they were only considering people at my hours level for 1 or 2 weeks then things changed again. Having the app up to date and in got the call the very first day I had what they wanted vs waiting until you hear through the grape vine you might be competitive.
Wow! That is literally winning the lottery! Congratulations.

Monthly update is probably a minimum plan. Two weeks is what I recommend as they were running classes every 2 weeks. With weekly classes I'd be updating weekly. You have no idea when your resume produces the magic combination that works. After every trip works also. "I do my logbook after every trip and I figure while I'm at it I might was well update my applications." Worked for him as well.

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Old 09-08-2025 | 11:13 AM
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How close to the DFW interview do they send info about the HR/Admin interview?

my interview is a little under 30 days out now, and I haven’t heard anything else. Im a little worried about my availability with my current flight schedule in this time frame
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Old 09-08-2025 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
I thought the LR forecast had summer of 2025 at
14.9. We had 15.75 at the end of July before they started hiring again. Now the forecast of 2026 has us at 15.2. We’re hiring another 1,000 this year (250 a month) and running 250 a month through 03/2026 to “catch up” on sooner than expected A/C delivery’s. We have another 250 retiring this year and 900ish retiring next year. Your math isn’t mathing and we should be well past 16k closing in on 17k by the end March 26’.
All I'm saying the long range forecast doesn't support increasing staffing much at all. I'd have to imagine they knew about those plans prior to publicizing the bid but who knows.

It's possible the forecast was done prior to the Spirit filing and now they are trying to increase hiring due to the possibility of them pulling out of some of our markets as well.
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