Letting Eagle walk all over American Pilots
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Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.
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Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.
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Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.
And AA treats mainline and wholly owned as one employee group - pilots, FA's rampers, dispatchers, whatever. This isn't some special vendetta against mainline pilots.
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Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.
If you're referring to a jumpseat situation, the Eagle pilots have to get some type of advantage on Eagle flights, similarly to how we can reserve the jumpseat. You get a PSA flight and it's a Mainline pilot and an Envoy or Piedmont pilot trying to get the jumpseat, the Envoy or Piedmont pilots are going to get the priority because it's an Eagle operated flight. This only applies to flights operated by PSA, Piedmont, or Envoy. Eagle isn't "walking over" anybody. That's a bone that got thrown their way a long time ago, and rightfully so.
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Who cares.
Out of the 1000 things I GAS about with respect to this job, I’d put this at about #987.
If me and/or my family really need to be somewhere we make more than enough money to buy tickets.
Any pilot who choses an airline based on
non-rev benefits is a fool, plain and simple.
Out of the 1000 things I GAS about with respect to this job, I’d put this at about #987.
If me and/or my family really need to be somewhere we make more than enough money to buy tickets.
Any pilot who choses an airline based on
non-rev benefits is a fool, plain and simple.
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Truly we have a battered wife syndrome or something here. Hey, buddy, they arent your company. You probably flowed I know, but do you understand that? And they can beat you for a seat on your own metal.
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Who cares.
Out of the 1000 things I GAS about with respect to this job, I’d put this at about #987.
If me and/or my family really need to be somewhere we make more than enough money to buy tickets.
Any pilot who choses an airline based on
non-rev benefits is a fool, plain and simple.
Out of the 1000 things I GAS about with respect to this job, I’d put this at about #987.
If me and/or my family really need to be somewhere we make more than enough money to buy tickets.
Any pilot who choses an airline based on
non-rev benefits is a fool, plain and simple.
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Just wanted to highlight an item to anyone considering coming to AA. American Eagle regional wholly owned pilots have the same non rev (D2) priority as mainline AA pilots. Everything is priority by time of check in. We have priority for the jumpseat on our own aircraft of course, but a PSA/Piedmont/Envoy pilot or employee can beat a 35+ year AA captain for a non rev (D2) seat in the back on their own metal! This would be laughable to Delta pilots who protect their own. Delta Connection pilots do not receive any benefit to this level, not to mention they also never receive profit sharing. I find that AA/APA has a total push over attitude towards fighting for their own pilot group. This is not an attack on the regional folks, just an observation that we readily allow our benefits to be diluted compared to other legacy pilot groups.
Maybe you should head over to delta with that mindset? You’d fit in great over there. Then you can stomp on the lowly RJ pilots and squash them like roaches to your heart’s content.
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