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Old 02-05-2026 | 10:22 PM
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So if the 319neo is nearly the same purchase price as an A321neo, do the professional fleet planners here think that the future will be B738s and A321s, plus the MAX 10 whenever/if ever those show up?

I think it's obvious the mighty guppy is the superior performer, I just find it hard to believe that we would be looking at a similar cost to operate a full A319 vs a B738 with only 128 seats filled. I understand the A319 isn't an A220 or E190, but there's gotta be some savings in fleet commonality. Then again, I'm not the expert on cost per seat gallon milage.

Is there any utility in a new A320 family purchase less than a 321 then?
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Old 02-06-2026 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DVNO
So if the 319neo is nearly the same purchase price as an A321neo, do the professional fleet planners here think that the future will be B738s and A321s, plus the MAX 10 whenever/if ever those show up?

I think it's obvious the mighty guppy is the superior performer, I just find it hard to believe that we would be looking at a similar cost to operate a full A319 vs a B738 with only 128 seats filled. I understand the A319 isn't an A220 or E190, but there's gotta be some savings in fleet commonality. Then again, I'm not the expert on cost per seat gallon milage.

Is there any utility in a new A320 family purchase less than a 321 then?
no, there is not. Either a monster order for big A220s or…. More of the same
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Old 02-06-2026 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
no, there is not. Either a monster order for big A220s or…. More of the same
They seem very wedded to the fleet simplification so I don't expect 220s. You could do 195 E2s but only if you integrate Eagle (at least the 175 side), since nobody seems to have an appetite for this, your status quo prediction is the most likely.
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Old 02-06-2026 | 05:19 AM
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They seem very wedded to the fleet simplification so I don't expect 220s. You could do 195 E2s but only if you integrate Eagle (at least the 175 side), since nobody seems to have an appetite for this, your status quo prediction is the most likely.
Or a sweetheart deal from Boeing on some Max 7s to go with more Max8/10s and/or 787-10s. But it’s a fair point, why fly a Max7 or 319 when you can take a Max8 for almost the same cost?
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Old 02-06-2026 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
They seem very wedded to the fleet simplification so I don't expect 220s. You could do 195 E2s but only if you integrate Eagle (at least the 175 side), since nobody seems to have an appetite for this, your status quo prediction is the most likely.
I agree about obsession with fleet simplification… IF a new NB type is ordered it will be for way down the road, like starting 7-10 years. Initially as a 319/320 replacement, after this coming refresh gets grungy. May touch 737 NGs too if a big enough version comes. I do not see any possibility of E195-E2. Supposedly Delta A220 operating expenses are fantastic.
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Old 02-06-2026 | 06:52 AM
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I'm willing to admit that I was mistaken if there's indeed no point to buying A319/320neos. I just don't want to continue flying pos basics with enough gremlins for a film of the same name.
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Old 02-06-2026 | 08:20 AM
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If Airbus would do the 220-500 with the CFM Leap engine not the Pratt, AA may go for it for common engine with the max’s and neo’s. I don’t see them going for it all if they can’t get leaps.
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Old 02-06-2026 | 08:53 AM
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I'm willing to admit that I was mistaken if there's indeed no point to buying A319/320neos. I just don't want to continue flying pos basics with enough gremlins for a film of the same name.
I hear you. You could always bid the 737 and enjoy the Block I junkers. 🫩

I'll guess between 2030-2032 they will finally be gone, sooner if there is a significant decline in bookings.
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Old 02-06-2026 | 08:59 AM
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I'll guess between 2030-2032 they will finally be gone, sooner if there is a significant decline in bookings.
I was told in the schoolhouse they'll be gone by the end of the year.


That was in 2017.
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Old 02-06-2026 | 10:09 AM
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I'm think we don't order any narrow body airbuses except 321s until they next generation of narrow body is announced. Boeing and Airbus are both working towards this supposedly. So is jet zero who ever that is.

That's the future of narrow body.
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