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Old 01-13-2012, 03:25 PM
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As a DAL pilot, I do NOT want to benefit over AA's troubles!(can't speak for anyone else)

Hope you guys stand strong and preserve as much as you can and come out as strong as possible.
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Old 01-13-2012, 03:36 PM
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As a DAL pilot, I do NOT want to benefit over AA's troubles!(can't speak for anyone else)
Actually, you REALLY don't want DAL to inherit AA's issues.
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
As a DAL pilot, I do NOT want to benefit over AA's troubles!(can't speak for anyone else)

Hope you guys stand strong and preserve as much as you can and come out as strong as possible.
Good post. Agreed.
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:53 PM
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Thanks folks... yes, I definitely remember all of the salivating and speculating going on during the past BKs. Outta my control anyway so why get worked up over it? My phone won't be ringing with suggestions on how to proceed, that's for sure.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:31 PM
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When's the last time a pilot correctly predicted anything dealing with what was going to happen with the airline industry?
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
As a DAL pilot, I do NOT want to benefit over AA's troubles!(can't speak for anyone else)

Hope you guys stand strong and preserve as much as you can and come out as strong as possible.
You can speak for me. I agree wholeheartedly. Here's hoping AA's pilots come out ok in the long run. Good luck guys!
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:45 PM
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When's the last time a pilot correctly predicted anything dealing with what was going to happen with the airline industry?
a United buddy of mine on 9/12/01 accurately predicted everything that was to befall United,and I thought he was being unduly pessimistic...
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:50 PM
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When's the last time a pilot correctly predicted anything dealing with what was going to happen with the airline industry?
When I got laid off at USAir in '90 I said it would get even worse after I left and I actually sold a boat for more than I paid for it.

Other than that, all my predictions were wrong.
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:02 AM
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Yeah, and last year I picked the Steelers to win the Super Bowl!
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by UASnake View Post
This thread has a familiar ring to it. When UAL went into BK plenty of other airline pilots were salivating at the prospect of our demise and getting UAL's LHR slots, Pacific Division, etc. None of which happened, even though UAL was arguably in a weaker financial position than AMR is in now.

AA pilots, don't let it get to you. You can't control much in the process, but you can learn from our mistakes and NOT sign a concessionary BK contract. Make the company get the judge to impose it. You'll be back in Section 6 sooner and you won't have the AMR spokesholes saying aggravating things like "we have consensual agreements in place with all of our unions and we intend to enforce them".
The only problem is this has yet to be tested.

I don't know of any place recently that's had an 1113(c) abrogation imposed on them. You might end up with something worse! Judge could impose a 10 year contract at USAir-East rates, with little or no retirement and little in the way of work rules. It's a gamble.

Secondly, BK law has never been tested in court. Once out of bankruptcy and released from the judge, what kind of contract are you under? It's not RLA, so can you withhold services without NMB release?

If you got the cajones to do it, good luck. It will take some deep pockets and a lot of time in court fighting it.
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