"Inherit the TA"? last I checked that "TA" is between AW/US/LCC. No were do I see a provision for a THREE PARTY TA. How does a new entity INHERIT a TA of which IT was never part of?

 

And there is the ignorance of your typical eastie. My friend, a successor union inherits ALL previous contracts and agreements, that is the law.

 

Self RATIONALIZATION. I guess those TWA pilots were at fault for TWA's downfall and therefore should be "lucky to have jobs at AA".
Define "truly bankrupt". I guess AA's present predicament is really not "bankrupt".
What if AA is in real trouble ,and perhaps a few months out from chap 7. Will you accept a STAPLE sli?
You keep referring to digging holes!! Just because I argue your logic does not make YOU righteous.
Question: Are you a NATIVE AAr or a FLOW-THRU?

 

...And what CONTRACT will the APA INHERIT may I ask...Some of us Ignoramus need to know.

 

They will inherit the same contract (ta) that usapa did. Sinking in yet?

 

Self rationalization................you mean like an entity who agrees to binding arbitration and then declares it non-binding after the ruling ?

That's a good one !

The only reason AMR is in bankruptcy now is to butcher their labor costs. 5 billion in dead Presidents, a viable brand in a viable global network, multiple desirable assets including routes, slots and aircraft........yep, I'll stand out on a limb and declare TWA's situation then and AA's now to be apples and oranges.

If AA ever becomes what TWA is (and arguably under the current stand-alone plan, it just may), then I'd be lucky to get any employment at all. I'm a flow-thru............and before you lecture me on the aspects of that situation, do some research. On second thought, I know more about it then you could ever read or study. Please don't start digging another hole.........the one you've already dug is too deep as it is.

 

You know Cacti, your a pretty sharp guy. How did you ever wound up working for a bottom feeder? Based on your unquestionable knowledge of labor law, I would expect more from you.
6 years later and the Nic is still, and will continue to be SHELVED!
Could you please enlighten US on the definition or purpose for a transition agreement.

 

Did you flow thru before or after the arbitration award? And if in fact you flowed after, how does it feel to prolong the furlough of a fellow EX TWA pilot. Funny how we can all rationalize and then call someone else WRONG!

 

I'm not that smart but have educated myself on the law as it relates to our situation. I know what you are getting at regarding the TA. You imply that the ta only applies to our merger with a new TA being negotiated between usapa and apa making our current TA disappear and the Nic. along with it, isn't that right? Now that would be another east fantasy that circulates in the east cockpits. First, you need a legitimate union reason to undo the nic. if usapa tries the west will get an injunction in a nano second, delaying everything until the apa takes over. Think about this, why would management and APA agree to replace usapa at the very first opportunity within their term sheet? Could it be they want to remove an impediment to a smooth merger? We all know that management filed the DJ because they were planning on this amr merge, why did they take the west side?

 

Well, I see you had to climb out of your old hole and start digging a new one.

I see no point in giving you more rocks to throw Andrew. For the record, individual flow-thru pilots had no control over the order-of-recall greivance filed by Eagle ALPA. Personally, at that time, I'd have been perfectly happy to remain at AE driving to work for $10K/month instead of commuting by air for $7K and let those who needed a job get one, but it wasn't my call.

With every post, you just radiate more and more class. The #1 reason most AA pilots are leery of U is Parker. The #2 is stomaching guys like you. My only advice for you at this point is not to let that floppy-eared pooch eat your AA/U DOH list.