R57 relay

Interesting change in the update from USAPA. Last night they said:

"Earlier today (Monday, August 27), USAPA was informed by US Airways President Scott Kirby that the US Airways Board of Directors had approved signing a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with AMR. This NDA prohibits US Airways from negotiating with unions at AMR and US Airways over terms and conditions related to a potential merger between the two companies."

Today the update has been changed to read:

"Earlier today (Monday, August 27), USAPA was informed by US Airways President Scott Kirby that the US Airways Board of Directors has been asked by AMR, as a sign of good faith, to cease union negotiations and behave as if the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) has already been signed. US Airways has agreed to honor that Request. This NDA prohibits US Airways from negotiating with unions at AMR and US Airways over terms and conditions related to a potential merger between the two companies."

As a sign of good faith. Right. I think that means a NO vote for me on the MOU.

CanoePilot

So this pretty much means the LCC/AA merger is gonna happen?

MayDaze

I think it means that Horton and Parker have finally decided to go on their third date... and they're getting pretty drunk.

Timbo

Too bad they can't get Teddy Kenedy to drive them home!

Gomerglideslope

OUCHH!....that's going to leave a mark.

Gomerglideslope

What would be the working theory here, AMR Pilots and LCC Pilots (as laid out in the Nic ruling), with APA as the surviving union?

CaptainBigWood

Do you really think that APA is going to be sympathetic to the NIC?
TWA is the best indicator.

sailingfun

I have a lot of friends at USAIR. The question of if you negotiate a 3 way new list or a 2 way list using Nic for both E and W USAIR pilots is near and dear to every USAIR pilot and which choice you would like to see depends on if your east or west.
One fact however is that it may be likely for USAIR that regardless of which method ends up being used it may not functionally change the makeup of the final SLI if the merger happens. This is because the arbitration community is a very close knit small group. Whoever is assigned the AA SLI will be very aware of the NIC ruling and is not likely to step on the prior ruling. This is one reason why any union should be very careful on what they bring to arbitration and how they conduct themselves with the NMB and in arbitration. When you spit in the arbitration communities face and call them incompetent it does not bode well for you the next time you have to use their services. Every union should keep that in mind. Solid leadership is often required to maintain the type of relationship you need with the NMB even though it may go against the wishes of many in a specific union group.

eaglefly

I would THINK that prior to any SLI issues related to mergers, the U pilot group could only present one seniority list for consideration, thus I would THINK that the E/W seniority squabble would have to be resolved one way or another prior to that. I can't see the APA having the mantle of decision maker regarding the internal U list thrown upon them as the surviving union.

Just my opinion as always............

Flyby1206

Would the motivation be any greater for E/W to agree on a SLI to present to APA as opposed to a SLI to move forward with their own contract during the past several years?