NDA is signed?
08-30-2012, 07:54 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood
APA is not sympathetic to NIC. My bet is the arbitrator will want to keep peace with a much much larger APA. DP and ToHo will want the majority to be less P Off. The question is will the list to the arbitrator be the NIC or DOH. That is where the best lawyers prevail.
I have no dog in the fight but I do have... common sense. There is no way APA wants to hand over their widebodies.
I fully understand why you want DOH and I am sympathetic, but it's a new era. It's not fair to take another's pilot's job.
08-30-2012, 09:21 PM
#42
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I do not expect an arbitration that would greatly upset APA since they have the greater numbers. The way the arbitrator selects a USAirways list is anyone's guess. I expect USAirway pilots to be fenced off AA original equipment for many years. There will be no windfall for USAirways pilots even if it was DOH because most of the East will be gone prior to a fence expiration. Arbitration is anyone's guess, a MOU must first pass then a CBA.
08-30-2012, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood
I do not expect an arbitration that would greatly upset APA since they have the greater numbers. The way the arbitrator selects a USAirways list is anyone's guess. I expect USAirway pilots to be fenced off AA original equipment for many years. There will be no windfall for USAirways pilots even if it was DOH because most of the East will be gone prior to a fence expiration. Arbitration is anyone's guess, a MOU must first pass then a CBA.
08-31-2012, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood
The MOU implies a single combined SL must be completed within 18 months of a joint CBA. Arbitrators typically bill by hour or day for services rendered. They get paid more to delay delay delay. Summer 2014 is the earliest, with likely fences. There may be a CBA, this year. Combined ops may be delayed for years.
The courts have already ruled that "but for" ripeness, USAPA has violated DFR by not implementing the NIC. USAirways management is seeking declaratory judgement on which list they must use to protect themselves during negotiations with USAPA.
If APA is to be the surviving union, do you think for a minute they'd agree to a list that could be undone by court order/judgement?
USAPA is out of ideas, airspeed and money. Your $85/hr 25 year f/o's will be far better off under the CLA if your group can get there.
08-31-2012, 05:45 AM
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Saw this when checking flights this morning on wings.
Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) Signed: An Important Message from CEO Doug Parker
August 31, 2012
Dear Fellow Employees:
Today we announced that US Airways has entered into a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with American Airlines’ parent company, under which both companies have agreed to exchange certain confidential information and to work in good faith to evaluate a potential combination. We are pleased to be working directly with American to study a potential merger and we consider this very good news. It does not mean we are merging – it simply means we have agreed to work together to discuss and analyze a potential merger.
A Non-Disclosure Agreement is pretty much what it sounds like. We, along with American, have agreed to not publicly disclose anything about the discussions or analysis as we move forward because we don’t believe that would be productive. We have also agreed not to discuss the work that is being done to analyze a potential combination with anyone not covered by the NDA. This agreement will likely remain in place until either a deal has been signed or we have determined this process will not result in a transaction.
As a result, we will not be able to be as open and candid about the discussions with American as we usually are about issues that are important to all of us. We will still be very communicative, of course, about all other aspects of our airline, and our Communications Team will continue their great work through About US, US Daily, Wings, State of the Airline webcasts, Crew News webcasts, etc.
I trust you recognize the importance of signing this NDA and we appreciate your understanding. While we may not be providing regular updates on this process, rest assured your management team is working diligently and aggressively to do what is best for US Airways and our hard-working team members. I will let you know more as soon we are able.
In the meantime, please keep up the great work. You all are doing a wonderful job of taking care of our customers and running a great airline. The results are remarkable. Thank you so much for all you do.
Sincerely,
Doug
Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) Signed: An Important Message from CEO Doug Parker
August 31, 2012
Dear Fellow Employees:
Today we announced that US Airways has entered into a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with American Airlines’ parent company, under which both companies have agreed to exchange certain confidential information and to work in good faith to evaluate a potential combination. We are pleased to be working directly with American to study a potential merger and we consider this very good news. It does not mean we are merging – it simply means we have agreed to work together to discuss and analyze a potential merger.
A Non-Disclosure Agreement is pretty much what it sounds like. We, along with American, have agreed to not publicly disclose anything about the discussions or analysis as we move forward because we don’t believe that would be productive. We have also agreed not to discuss the work that is being done to analyze a potential combination with anyone not covered by the NDA. This agreement will likely remain in place until either a deal has been signed or we have determined this process will not result in a transaction.
As a result, we will not be able to be as open and candid about the discussions with American as we usually are about issues that are important to all of us. We will still be very communicative, of course, about all other aspects of our airline, and our Communications Team will continue their great work through About US, US Daily, Wings, State of the Airline webcasts, Crew News webcasts, etc.
I trust you recognize the importance of signing this NDA and we appreciate your understanding. While we may not be providing regular updates on this process, rest assured your management team is working diligently and aggressively to do what is best for US Airways and our hard-working team members. I will let you know more as soon we are able.
In the meantime, please keep up the great work. You all are doing a wonderful job of taking care of our customers and running a great airline. The results are remarkable. Thank you so much for all you do.
Sincerely,
Doug
08-31-2012, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood
I do not expect an arbitration that would greatly upset APA since they have the greater numbers. The way the arbitrator selects a USAirways list is anyone's guess. I expect USAirway pilots to be fenced off AA original equipment for many years. There will be no windfall for USAirways pilots even if it was DOH because most of the East will be gone prior to a fence expiration. Arbitration is anyone's guess, a MOU must first pass then a CBA.
08-31-2012, 08:42 AM
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USAPA has to present a list. Which one do you think they will submit? It will take a legal action to force a presentation of the NIC. That could very well happen. Arbitration is two years away the way I read it.
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