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Old 10-17-2013, 02:26 PM
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Silver denies usapa's latest delay tactic

Full docket text for document 231:
MINUTE ENTRY for proceedings held before Senior Judge Roslyn O Silver: Status Conference held on 10/17/2013. Discussion is held regarding the testimony of Gary Hummel. IT IS ORDERED denying the [221] Motion to Continue Trial.

APPEARANCES: Marty Harper (telephonically) and Andrew Jacob (telephonically) for Plaintiffs. Susan Martin, Jennifer Kroll, Brian ODwyer (telephonically), Patrick Szymanski (telephonically), Chris Hollinger (telephonically), and Robert Siegel (telephonically) for Defendants. (Court Reporter Elaine Cropper.) Hearing held 1:07 PM to 1:37 PM. This is a TEXT ENTRY ONLY. There is no PDF document associated with this entry. (CLB)
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:27 PM
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You are implying that the apa will work with usapa to dfr the west, does that make any sense to you?
The DFR question will be answered. The APA's hands are, and will be, clean. That's why the MOU is set up that way, IMHO.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:34 PM
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No, my mind doesn't get it, as I've said before. That statement tells east pilots that they need not fear voting in the MOU with regard to the Nic and tells the west pilots not to vote it in because they feel it will implement the Nic.

“no East pilot should vote against the MOU because they fear that ratifying the MOU will implement
the Nicolau Award,"

"and no West pilot should vote for the MOU because they believe the
MOU will implement the Nicolau Award.”

How you or Judge Silver can use that as evidence as evidence against USAPA is beyond me. It indicates the Nic will not be used!
Amazing. So You can intrepet better what the document says than Silver?
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:35 PM
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The DFR question will be answered. The APA's hands are, and will be, clean. That's why the MOU is set up that way, IMHO.
Yeah, but your buddy is claiming the apa will work with usapa to scuttle the Nic.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
Yeah, but your buddy is claiming the apa will work with usapa to scuttle the Nic.
I don't know him, he claims he is not an east pilot. I have no reason to doubt him, he even misspelled Nicolau. I believe he just stated that he thought that the APA wouldn't be excited about having the Nicolau as the starting point. That's logical because the Nicolau puts a larger number of relatively young pilots more senior. You want the old ones from the other airline to be the ones senior to you. You just can't handle anyone or anything that is not all Nic, all the time.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
Amazing. So You can intrepet better what the document says than Silver?
I can read. How can you interpret "and no West pilot should vote for the MOU because they believe the
MOU will implement the Nicolau Award.” as meaning "yeah, we love the Nic and intend to use it?"
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Silver denies usapa's latest delay tactic
Delay was not why they filed it.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:22 PM
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Delay was not why they filed it.
Why was it then? This is the 6th time they have attempted to delay the trial.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:23 PM
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I can read. How can you interpret "and no West pilot should vote for the MOU because they believe the
MOU will implement the Nicolau Award.” as meaning "yeah, we love the Nic and intend to use it?"
How do you interpret "neutral" to mean does away with the Nic.? Silver calls that line of thinking "frivolous"
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How do you interpret "neutral" to mean does away with the Nic.? Silver calls that line of thinking "frivolous"
Simple, again I actually read the MOU. It's neutral in respect to the US/AW seniority issue, putting it aside to be determined only the global SLI with AA. Just as the MOU and Captain Hogg said.
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