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03-09-2013, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by justfun
Jim Philpot, John Darrah, Ralph Hunter to name a few. Some others have retired, Ed White. These were key players. Darrah got played big time.
03-09-2013, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by justfun
Jim Philpot, John Darrah, Ralph Hunter to name a few. Some others have retired, Ed White. These were key players. Darrah got played big time.
What management jobs did they, or do they, have?
And he said "most".
03-10-2013, 05:06 AM
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Philpot filled some bs management position for customer satisfaction ( he was the previous DFW chairman )
Darrah was the APA president at the time, he was a very junior Captain. He then became a check airman, and still is to this day. He never had to work under the BS reserve system that was put in place.
Hunter was also an APA president, after Darrah, that signed away the minimum captain seats, and wanted to continue to give to the company. He is now a check airman too.
Bob Johnson, former APA negotiator from the '97 time frame, Orcas Island, went into several management positions.
We are our own worst enemies when it comes to holding the union line.
Darrah was the APA president at the time, he was a very junior Captain. He then became a check airman, and still is to this day. He never had to work under the BS reserve system that was put in place.
Hunter was also an APA president, after Darrah, that signed away the minimum captain seats, and wanted to continue to give to the company. He is now a check airman too.
Bob Johnson, former APA negotiator from the '97 time frame, Orcas Island, went into several management positions.
We are our own worst enemies when it comes to holding the union line.
03-10-2013, 07:01 AM
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Bob Johnson - shack.
Phipot? Ha. Like a customer experience volunteer slot is the way to influence at AA?
Darrah and Hunter gave away XYZ? NO's chair the meeting where the BOD votes. BOD can, and has, kicked NO's out of BOD meetings. NO's are the power brokers guys make them out to be.
Darrah never had to sit reserve? You might want to check what he held from 2004-07. 2008? He was able to hold a line.
The list you provided is a long way from "most". One(Jophnson), one guy in a putz job, two CKA(debatable).
And what management job did Ed White have?
Phipot? Ha. Like a customer experience volunteer slot is the way to influence at AA?
Darrah and Hunter gave away XYZ? NO's chair the meeting where the BOD votes. BOD can, and has, kicked NO's out of BOD meetings. NO's are the power brokers guys make them out to be.
Darrah never had to sit reserve? You might want to check what he held from 2004-07. 2008? He was able to hold a line.
The list you provided is a long way from "most". One(Jophnson), one guy in a putz job, two CKA(debatable).
And what management job did Ed White have?
03-10-2013, 03:52 PM
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Sliceback,
Philpot was a big proponent of the 2003 give backs, then promptly left for management. Regardless of what you say he was part of the problem.
Darrah was directly involved with the negotiations in 2003. He came to the DFW meeting bragging about the crappy contract that we were going to vote on. He played stud poker with the big boys and got beat. The problem is he was playing with our money not just his! As to his status, he has been a Check Airman for a while, he may have sat on this system for a bit, so I take back that statement.
Hunter was repaid for pushing the give backs that got squashed just prior to him getting voted out of office.
You sound a bit like a management lackie. If I am reading that wrong I apologize, if not well...
Philpot was a big proponent of the 2003 give backs, then promptly left for management. Regardless of what you say he was part of the problem.
Darrah was directly involved with the negotiations in 2003. He came to the DFW meeting bragging about the crappy contract that we were going to vote on. He played stud poker with the big boys and got beat. The problem is he was playing with our money not just his! As to his status, he has been a Check Airman for a while, he may have sat on this system for a bit, so I take back that statement.
Hunter was repaid for pushing the give backs that got squashed just prior to him getting voted out of office.
You sound a bit like a management lackie. If I am reading that wrong I apologize, if not well...
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