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#163
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Although I can't be 100% positive since nobody's asked me to sit in on any of the interviewing, this has the aroma of wild-*ss (incorrect) rumor to it.
Having previous Airbus (or Boeing time, for that matter) doesn't make any of the courses shorter and doesn't save the company any money.
In so far as having flown an Airbus/Boeing shows that you are able to fly a big airplane, the company will like that. But there are other big airplanes out there (eg Mickey D's or military transports) that show the same thing, and the company will like that also.
Thinking you've got a leg up because you know your way around a 319's cockpit is, I believe, a colossal misunderstanding of the process.
What they're really looking for is somebody who can show he or she is smart, experienced, safety-conscious, conscientious, has common sense, and wouldn't be a giant downer on layovers. Not necessarily in that order.
Having previous Airbus (or Boeing time, for that matter) doesn't make any of the courses shorter and doesn't save the company any money.
In so far as having flown an Airbus/Boeing shows that you are able to fly a big airplane, the company will like that. But there are other big airplanes out there (eg Mickey D's or military transports) that show the same thing, and the company will like that also.
Thinking you've got a leg up because you know your way around a 319's cockpit is, I believe, a colossal misunderstanding of the process.
What they're really looking for is somebody who can show he or she is smart, experienced, safety-conscious, conscientious, has common sense, and wouldn't be a giant downer on layovers. Not necessarily in that order.
BUT..
After all the things you listed which definitely come first before anything else, having that Airbus/Boeing time will help in my opinion. Especially the Airbus time. Why you ask? Well, when you have a pilot group with ZERO experience flying the A320 series, somewhere/somehow the thought of getting some guys on property with experience has to come up in the mind of everyone that is working this hiring process.
Again this is my logic , so I could be totally wrong, but hey it's a forum.
Good luck to everyone!
#164
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 386
Boeing or Airbus time won't mean squat.
The training department will need to go to training on the Airbus, and develop a syllabus that the FAA approves. Once this is accomplished all pilots that bid and are awarded the Airbus will have to go through the entire training syllabus. Having (or not having) airbus time will make no difference.
I can't understand why any of you would think that it makes a difference in the seniority based 121 world. I understand startups like VA that operate only one type weighing more heavily on Airbus typed individuals, but a global airline like AA, with multiple types of aircraft, could care less.
The training department will need to go to training on the Airbus, and develop a syllabus that the FAA approves. Once this is accomplished all pilots that bid and are awarded the Airbus will have to go through the entire training syllabus. Having (or not having) airbus time will make no difference.
I can't understand why any of you would think that it makes a difference in the seniority based 121 world. I understand startups like VA that operate only one type weighing more heavily on Airbus typed individuals, but a global airline like AA, with multiple types of aircraft, could care less.
#168
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#169
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American didn't just order 460 F16s or F18s to fly JFK-LAX. They ordered A320 and B737 family aircraft. It would only make sense that the most qualified pilots would be the ones already flying A320s or 737s. The whole application is based on a point system that will score the application and narrow a pool for the first round of interviews. The AA pilotcredential website is notorious for barely having any information. How do you expect them to score the application? The fact they didn't put down any minimums means that even brand new regional airline pilots can apply. When they have 10,000+ applications, they need to narrow it down to a couple hundred for interviews.
How do you do that? Total time? TPIC time? IMO, the first round they will run is a system cutoff for Boeing/Airbus time pilots and see how many there are throughout the system.
How do you do that? Total time? TPIC time? IMO, the first round they will run is a system cutoff for Boeing/Airbus time pilots and see how many there are throughout the system.
#170
Recycling dinosaurs
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