Background - 2,100TT Part121/135, No Military. Question - Would I be better served staying 135 and building time slower or go to a 121 and accelerate my times to make me a competitive candidate with AA?

 

3400 TT
1700 Pt. 121
850 TPIC (current corporate)
Mgr of Safety
Bachelors with high GPA
MBA with high GPA

Would AA give me the time of day?

 

With that background, your best bet to get to AA is via on of its Wholly Owned regionals and applying to get on outside the flow...

 

I assume you're a fighter dude. Things seem to be happen a lot faster for fighter pilots (no pun intended).

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I can’t find the chart right now but I think AA said the avg civilian new hire had around 5500 TT(??) a year or two ago?

Last year OTS avg’d 3600 hrs. 79% military which tends to be lower TT.

Guys do get hired with less then 4-5,000 TT but it appears to be less than avg.

 

I appreciate the info. Good data. If you find that chart, would you PM it to me, please?

 

I’m not sure if the fighter background helps or hurts in the vetting process post interview based on my aircraft flying background. Folks in my class had similar timing... some non-fighter military, mil/121 mix and some with no military. That said, others took a while because they told us AA has to check back on every flying job by law. It’s obvious many pilots who’ve come up through the civilian world end up in many different jobs trying to build experience. For me, I’d been in the military for almost 28 years so one call verified all employment. I heard the HR lady talking to one applicant asking, “Can you try to track down a phone number or something for these older jobs? I know some may not even still be in business but we’re required by law to try”.

 

No, I don't think it does much for you post-interview, but my point was that being a fighter pilot generally gets you an interview quicker. Your example supports my theory. You submitted an app 28 December and got an interview invite barely 2 months later. That's pretty phenomenal considering there's been guys with heavy military backround with 4,000+ hours (IP/EP, safety officers, multiple recommendations by AA pilots, multiple career fairs, etc) that wait 8, 10, 12 months, if not upwards of two years to get an interview. It's just my observation from what I've seen in the forums and RST. They just seem to like fighter pilots. Afterall, they have a box to check in the demographics section that specifically asks, "Are you now or have you ever been a Fighter Pilot?". It's definitely there to give you extra points. Whatever you did, you did something right!

Interesting about the employment verification. I've got probably over a dozen squadron-mates who have gotten hired by one of (or several) of the Big 3 companies, to include AA and our commander has never been called by any of them to verify their employment in order to land the video interview. Are you talking post interview backround check?

That being said, those of you military guys who have bounced around from assignment to assignment on AD and who are in the ANG/AFRC now, what contact info did you put for your former assignments if your supervisor has moved on to bigger and better things? I guess your current unit can verify your previous assignments through MilPDS.

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Completely understand about the fighter check box on the app. Was hoping it was a good thing when I first saw it lmao.

Total disclosure if it helps others: Just over 4400 hours total time. 1000 civ with 650 as CFI/I and MEI. Mid 3200 hours F-16 IP/SEFE, Commander stink, Flight and Wing Chief of Safety. Was less than 100 hours in the past 12 months for lookback but was “current” and flying regularly.

They have you bring a DD-214 and I don’t know how they verify employment. I know as a CC when we would get calls (because most guys put the squadron or CC number) they’d refer them to personnel (HRO).

I put all my jobs in chronological order since I’d been at the same Guard base for 18 years after my 10 years on AD. I did that based on an answer to a question I asked to the app question help desk. I listed supervisors but for ones that were gone I just listed the name off the OPR and put unknown in the contact info. Guess it worked for me...

For your employment verification timing question... My understanding for AA at least, is the employment and education verification happens after the CJO not to get the vid invite.

Cheers

 

Also had 5 internal recommendations, 3 from captains and all who personally flew with me...not just acquaintances. I still don’t know when the refs come into play though...