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Old 05-08-2018 | 10:38 AM
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What is the possibility of getting hired at AA having no internal recs? Is it bad to have recs from pilots that work at other airlines? Don't think I know anyone at AA.

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Old 05-08-2018 | 01:38 PM
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1. Good
2. Other airlines are fine but internal is better.

Last flying gig? Rank? How many hours in the last year? What’s the plan if you don’t get hired ASAP? Hopefully it starts with “get a 121 regional job...”
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Old 05-14-2018 | 10:20 AM
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What’s the usual time frame of getting the CJO or the TBNT email?
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Old 12-11-2018 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by drifterf16
That said, others took a while because they told us AA has to check back on every flying job by law. It’s obvious many pilots who’ve come up through the civilian world end up in many different jobs trying to build experience. For me, I’d been in the military for almost 28 years so one call verified all employment. I heard the HR lady talking to one applicant asking, “Can you try to track down a phone number or something for these older jobs? I know some may not even still be in business but we’re required by law to try”.



Anyone have more detailed information on what would be acceptable proof or verification of prior flying jobs with companies no longer in business? Pay stubs? Co-workers phone number, IRS document proving employment?
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Old 12-11-2018 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito
What’s the usual time frame of getting the CJO or the TBNT email?


Seems that most hear back within 24 hours of leaving the interview. Occasionally, it takes longer. For me, it was 3 weeks later but still good news at least.


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Old 12-14-2018 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AFPirate
Based on my math of pilot retirements versus aircraft retirements, and coupled with the two vacancy bids we've had so far for 2018, I'm forecasting 675 hires for 2018. Hopefully I'm wrong and they hire more... I think 900 is not plausible.
900+ Probably for the next how many years. Kudos to the training dept, quite a feat!
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Old 12-14-2018 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Barracuda
Anyone have more detailed information on what would be acceptable proof or verification of prior flying jobs with companies no longer in business? Pay stubs? Co-workers phone number, IRS document proving employment?
Don’t sweat this. A lot of guys have flown for companies that have gone out of business. Some are required to have a custodian of records after they cease operations. This will not be a problem for you.
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Old 12-14-2018 | 03:31 AM
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For anyone interested, here are the final numbers for 2018...

Total hired in 2018: 940

Class 18-01 40/40
Class 18-02 42/40
Class 18-03 24/40
Class 18-04 26/40
Class 18-05 32/40
Class 18-06 36/40
Class 18-07 42/40
Class 18-08 36/40
Class 18-09 41/40
Class 18-10 43/40
Class 18-11 22/40
Class 18-12 24/40
Class 18-13 22/40
Class 18-14 28/40
Class 18-15 28/40
Class 18-16 40/40
Class 18-17 39/40
Class 18-18 39/30
Class 18-19 38/30
Class 18-20 45/30
Class 18-21 48/30
Class 18-22 45/30
Class 18-23 47/30
Class 18-24 38/20
Class 18-25 75/40

Total to date: 940
2018 Plan: 920

Here is the tentative plan for 2019...

Class 19-1: 1/8-50
Class 19-2: 1/22-47
Class 19-3: 2/5-38
Class 19-4: 2/19-36
Class 19-5: 3/5-38
Class 19-6: 3/19-36
Class 19-7: 4/2-30
Class 19-8: 4/16-32
Class 19-9: 4/30-35
Class 19-10: 5/14-48
Class 19-11: 5/28-49
Class 19-12: 6/11-26
Class 19-13: 6/25-25
Class 19-14: 7/9-42
Class 19-15: 7/23-42
Class 19-16: 8/6-0
Class 19-17: 8/27-20
Class 19-18: 9/10-24
Class 19-19: 9/24-23
Class 19-20: 10/8-50
Class 19-21: 10/22-50
Class 19-22: 11/5-50
Class 19-23: 11/19-50
Class 19-24: 12/3-34
Class 19-25: 12/17-35

910 total
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Old 12-14-2018 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00
900+ Probably for the next how many years. Kudos to the training dept, quite a feat!
Yes. 940. There were a number of very vocal people on here that strongly disagreed with me when I stuck with the 900 forecast.

Seeing is believing. . .
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Old 12-14-2018 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rawhide16
For anyone interested, here are the final numbers for 2018...

Total hired in 2018: 940

Class 18-01 40/40
Class 18-02 42/40
Class 18-03 24/40
Class 18-04 26/40
Class 18-05 32/40
Class 18-06 36/40
Class 18-07 42/40
Class 18-08 36/40
Class 18-09 41/40
Class 18-10 43/40
Class 18-11 22/40
Class 18-12 24/40
Class 18-13 22/40
Class 18-14 28/40
Class 18-15 28/40
Class 18-16 40/40
Class 18-17 39/40
Class 18-18 39/30
Class 18-19 38/30
Class 18-20 45/30
Class 18-21 48/30
Class 18-22 45/30
Class 18-23 47/30
Class 18-24 38/20
Class 18-25 75/40

Total to date: 940
2018 Plan: 920

Here is the tentative plan for 2019...

Class 19-1: 1/8-50
Class 19-2: 1/22-47
Class 19-3: 2/5-38
Class 19-4: 2/19-36
Class 19-5: 3/5-38
Class 19-6: 3/19-36
Class 19-7: 4/2-30
Class 19-8: 4/16-32
Class 19-9: 4/30-35
Class 19-10: 5/14-48
Class 19-11: 5/28-49
Class 19-12: 6/11-26
Class 19-13: 6/25-25
Class 19-14: 7/9-42
Class 19-15: 7/23-42
Class 19-16: 8/6-0
Class 19-17: 8/27-20
Class 19-18: 9/10-24
Class 19-19: 9/24-23
Class 19-20: 10/8-50
Class 19-21: 10/22-50
Class 19-22: 11/5-50
Class 19-23: 11/19-50
Class 19-24: 12/3-34
Class 19-25: 12/17-35

910 total
That’s strange. With retirements ramping up, going into section 6, and Parker’s stated goal of growth to match GDP why is hiring decreasing? I bet they are planning on zero growth or a slight contraction.
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