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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:08 AM
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Today could, and should be the turning point in what was one of the greatest professions in American history. Today is our chance to collectively tell the elitists that they are done taking, and we are done giving. AA pilots work for the largest and most profitable airline in the world. The executives who have stolen our profession are compensated beyond that of any of their peers. The 15,000 professionals who truly run this operation are about to vote on, and if passed, own the most concessionary contract amongst all of the legacy carriers.

Highest grossing airline.
Highest paid management.
Worst contract in the industry.

To quote my father-in-law. "You pilots have more influence than anyone could possibly imagine. If you would just unite and stop being so easily bribed with money and stop selling the souls of your youth for cash, you could all get what you deserve for your services. I mean damn man airplanes don't fly themselves! What the hell is wrong with you guys?"
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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:24 AM
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Apparently, your father-in-law was unfamiliar with the National Railway Labor Act.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kingairip
Apparently, your father-in-law was unfamiliar with the National Railway Labor Act.
Well there's the first defeatist. Who's next?
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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ATRCA
Well there's the first defeatist. Who's next?
Those that are smart enough to comprehend what will happen if this is turned down.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ATRCA
Today could, and should be the turning point in what was one of the greatest professions in American history. Today is our chance to collectively tell the elitists that they are done taking, and we are done giving. AA pilots work for the largest and most profitable airline in the world. The executives who have stolen our profession are compensated beyond that of any of their peers. The 15,000 professionals who truly run this operation are about to vote on, and if passed, own the most concessionary contract amongst all of the legacy carriers.

Highest grossing airline.
Highest paid management.
Worst contract in the industry.

To quote my father-in-law. "You pilots have more influence than anyone could possibly imagine. If you would just unite and stop being so easily bribed with money and stop selling the souls of your youth for cash, you could all get what you deserve for your services. I mean damn man airplanes don't fly themselves! What the hell is wrong with you guys?"
Well, the CEO himself expects pilots to do their jobs and if they did, it would carry a lot more leverage. The best statement to make from a standpoint of unity and the resistance to this tyranny is a rejection of this ridiculousness and arbitration that preserves as much of the Green Book as possible while still getting near Delta pay in 1 year.

THEN, at some point, Parker would almost certainly have to come back to the table with a different attitude. This TA will be the long-term contract here while we all watch the others pass us by in the express lane and disappear out of sight.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ATRCA
Well there's the first defeatist. Who's next?
He's been one from the start. Keep moving to those that are salvageable.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
Those that are smart enough to comprehend what will happen if this is turned down.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
What exactly will happen ?
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Old 01-04-2015 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ATRCA
Well there's the first defeatist. Who's next?
Whatever, MF. The proof is in the pudding. Guys like you, your father-in-law, eaglefly and Purple Turtle ran USAPA for years. We saw the results. Didn't work out so well. Wages at bankruptcy rates and the laughing stock of the industry resulted. No thanks.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
What exactly will happen ?
with a NO vote, the company realizes that the BOD was representing the interests of its 15,000 pilots that came together and voted no, and then comes back to the table with a better offer since their attempt to circumvent the union didn't work.

don't vote yes just because youre afraid of arbitration. that's the last reason to vote yes. These are not desperate times.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kingairip
Apparently, your father-in-law was unfamiliar with the National Railway Labor Act.
Almost introduced coffee to my nasal passages....
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