AA Pilots Unite Or Fold Forever
01-05-2015 | 05:19 PM
#101
Line Holder
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From: B737
They won't have to wait 3 to 6 months to get it taken care of in arbitration. I'm telling you arbitration will be over in a few weeks, not months. And arbitration is already costed out. The arbitration you're talking about (unknowns, etc) does not exist in the MTA language. The board mostly cares about economics, and the cost-neutral language preserves the economics of the deal. The HBT carve out and combined division stuff will not have a major effect on their bottom line. They ran US Airways as a floating leper colony and somehow made that work. HBT etc is minor compared to that.
01-05-2015 | 09:29 PM
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: A terminal bum
This is why the company prefers to negotiate with the membership.
A year ago all here were just fine with the MOU.. Now look at folks readily willing to trade concessions to get the money early.
Look hard at these concessions and ask yourself.. If they are so minor why is mngt wanting it? All of these wants have a price tag and they want to get it the cheapest. We are nearing the end.. Let's let our reps do their jobs.
In a few weeks the company will post even more record profits as well as the compensation details of our execs for the year (Will be fun to see their profit sharing ).They can and should be compensating us better.
A year ago all here were just fine with the MOU.. Now look at folks readily willing to trade concessions to get the money early.
Look hard at these concessions and ask yourself.. If they are so minor why is mngt wanting it? All of these wants have a price tag and they want to get it the cheapest. We are nearing the end.. Let's let our reps do their jobs.
In a few weeks the company will post even more record profits as well as the compensation details of our execs for the year (Will be fun to see their profit sharing ).They can and should be compensating us better.
01-06-2015 | 05:43 AM
#105
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Joined: Aug 2014
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From: A320 F/O
Are you a flight attendent? Or a pilot?
01-06-2015 | 05:49 AM
#106
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From: A320 F/O
This is why the company prefers to negotiate with the membership.
A year ago all here were just fine with the MOU.. Now look at folks readily willing to trade concessions to get the money early.
Look hard at these concessions and ask yourself.. If they are so minor why is mngt wanting it? All of these wants have a price tag and they want to get it the cheapest. We are nearing the end.. Let's let our reps do their jobs.
In a few weeks the company will post even more record profits as well as the compensation details of our execs for the year (Will be fun to see their profit sharing ).They can and should be compensating us better.
A year ago all here were just fine with the MOU.. Now look at folks readily willing to trade concessions to get the money early.
Look hard at these concessions and ask yourself.. If they are so minor why is mngt wanting it? All of these wants have a price tag and they want to get it the cheapest. We are nearing the end.. Let's let our reps do their jobs.
In a few weeks the company will post even more record profits as well as the compensation details of our execs for the year (Will be fun to see their profit sharing ).They can and should be compensating us better.
Domestically the U.S. is OK overall for now helped by the extra oomph of cheap gas but that could go either way. SWA increased traffic in DAL 13% alone in one month while ours dropped 1% in the same month. Our domestic strength is non-existent in the face of LCCs and ULCCs. We need a strong world economy to be profitable unlike SWA.
01-06-2015 | 07:36 AM
#107
La Familia Delta
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
People are assuming profits will go ape next year. I'm not so sure. Yes oil prices are down but so is the overall market for oil, demand has dropped tremendously. Europe and Asia are weakening as is our Mecca, Texas. Latin America traffic has dropped off the cliff.
Domestically the U.S. is OK overall for now helped by the extra oomph of cheap gas but that could go either way. SWA increased traffic in DAL 13% alone in one month while ours dropped 1% in the same month. Our domestic strength is non-existent in the face of LCCs and ULCCs. We need a strong world economy to be profitable unlike SWA.
Domestically the U.S. is OK overall for now helped by the extra oomph of cheap gas but that could go either way. SWA increased traffic in DAL 13% alone in one month while ours dropped 1% in the same month. Our domestic strength is non-existent in the face of LCCs and ULCCs. We need a strong world economy to be profitable unlike SWA.
01-06-2015 | 09:03 AM
#108
You scratched my anchor
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01-06-2015 | 09:59 AM
#109
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The biggest mistakes in this whole situation can be placed on APA for doing the backroom deal with doug and not even including the US air pilots in anything. In the typical AAroggance they thought parker was some small time ceo who would be desperate. They were so gung-ho about getting rid of Horton at all costs they didn't think ahead. Well now we know the cost.
01-06-2015 | 11:01 AM
#110
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From: Right Seat
Not true. I never said this is the best contract. It does lack in several areas. However, I'm a realist and know that this is the best were gonna get at this point and it is a heck of a lot better than the MOU.
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