USAPA Withdraws
06-30-2015, 06:38 AM
#41
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Nowhere in the MB process does it require USAPA to participate. USAPA got that right through the protocol agreement. The 9th said that USAPA's participation must be limited to advocacy for the Nic. The East merger committee is actually part of the APA, but they are also bound by the 9th's ruling as they represent the East pilots.
If the East committee chooses not to participate, that's their choice. Same with USAPA. IMHO, if the East committee joins with the West and let's Jeff Freund represent the whole LUS side, that would probably provide the best outcome for the East pilots.
If the East committee chooses not to participate, that's their choice. Same with USAPA. IMHO, if the East committee joins with the West and let's Jeff Freund represent the whole LUS side, that would probably provide the best outcome for the East pilots.
06-30-2015, 06:43 AM
#42
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The same lawyers who just got us victory at the 9th and the merger attorney who secured fair lists for AWA, Delta, and United?
Yup, baboons.
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06-30-2015, 06:44 AM
#43
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So the APA lets the west have a committee because they don't think the east can effectively represent them, then they turn around and let the west represent me? Yeah, no potential DFR there.
You are right. USAPA no longer represents me. That's how the APA(and you) wanted it. You got it.
You are right. USAPA no longer represents me. That's how the APA(and you) wanted it. You got it.
06-30-2015, 06:45 AM
#44
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So the APA lets the west have a committee because they don't think the east can effectively represent them, then they turn around and let the west represent me? Yeah, no potential DFR there.
You are right. USAPA no longer represents me. That's how the APA(and you) wanted it. You got it.
You are right. USAPA no longer represents me. That's how the APA(and you) wanted it. You got it.
The East has a committee. They made the choice to no show and withdraw. The APA has provided the platform. Their duty to represent has been fulfilled.
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06-30-2015, 07:00 AM
#45
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If they allow us a new committee, with time to spool up, fine, whatever injunction comes.
And the fact is, we don't even know what the final injunction language will be. Moving forward would be stupid. The company said they won't be ready for a list in December anyway. Take a few more weeks and do it right.
06-30-2015, 07:01 AM
#46
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If the Arb panel can perform their MB duties, they should.
06-30-2015, 07:03 AM
#47
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If the APA allowed the east committee to represent you NOW, you'd be the first in line to write another DFR check.
If they allow us a new committee, with time to spool up, fine, whatever injunction comes.
And the fact is, we don't even know what the final injunction language will be. Moving forward would be stupid. The company said they won't be ready for a list in December anyway. Take a few more weeks and do it right.
If they allow us a new committee, with time to spool up, fine, whatever injunction comes.
And the fact is, we don't even know what the final injunction language will be. Moving forward would be stupid. The company said they won't be ready for a list in December anyway. Take a few more weeks and do it right.
06-30-2015, 07:06 AM
#48
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I didn't impugn their past success. If they don't explain the Arb panel's duty, they are padding their billing.
06-30-2015, 07:10 AM
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I feel bad for the third listers, they are anchored to the titanic.
06-30-2015, 07:13 AM
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Exactly. Rank and his east buddies are getting DFR confused with court appeals. The APA nor the arbitration board issued the restriction to USAPA, the court ordered it and that is the forum they need to address their disagreement. Walking out of the arbitration is going to only hurt the east pilots, but if they do it will definitely expedite the SLI hearings.
I feel bad for the third listers, they are anchored to the titanic.
I feel bad for the third listers, they are anchored to the titanic.
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