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Old 06-30-2015 | 10:49 AM
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I was hired late 2012 and for me the difference between the West and USAPA list was like 200 numbers, maybe a little less, with the USAPA list being more favorable. I didn't look that close but I'm guessing most of that difference was putting West guys junior to me which obviously isn't right. The APA list was like 1000 number difference with tons of 2013 hires ahead of me.

If it's even possible for someone as junior as me to get screwed, it's gonna happen. I'm in the acceptance process right now. By the time the list is done I'll be over it
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Old 06-30-2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude
Yup, he had the tie.
So how did he know you were East?
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Old 06-30-2015 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
So how did he know you were East?
Don't ruin the story, please. The Dude, go ahead and continue, let's here another... LOL
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Old 06-30-2015 | 11:51 AM
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The OP is asking an impossible question as if trying to draw new battle lines. It's an excuse for envy. This is a matter of statute not spoils to the victor.
Who cares how pilots feel just as long as everyone is ****ed.
This is an invitation to wishful thinking and agenda building not objectivity and R 57 I suspect your motives here. This is not democracy and polling the masses to make policy. Rather, obeying the rule of law and sucking it up like mature adults.
My apologies if I misinterpreted your motives but others have similar beliefs here.
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Old 06-30-2015 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
So how did he know you were East?
I have no idea.
Maybe because he didn't recognize me or because I don't have the tie.
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Old 06-30-2015 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GrapeNuts
Drizzle makes this stuff up. Ever wonder how all this happens and nobody ever gets called on the carpet for it? We see nothing in the read files, nothing coming down from the Chief Pilots office, nothing coming from HR. Up until the APA took over I was good friends with the West pilot involved with grievances and disciplinary proceedings (this pilot is also a licensed attorney) and asked him about these fables from Drizzle and Arado. Guess what- nohting EVER came across his desk. Nothing. Sure, a couple denied jump seats (from both sides), but nothing EVER resembling what Drizzle alleges. So, either the incidents didn't happen (or were just a tee bit, um, exaggerated and embellished and Drizzle, who is quite comfortable coming on an anonymous message board and launching unsubstantiated barbs at the west but was just too shaken and scared to say anyhting to his chief pilot and thus, these issues never made it to the proper channels. Or, Drizzile is nothing more than a pot-stirrer on this here anonymous message board. Sure is easy to hide behind an avatar and throw nebulous barbs at the west pilots, and perhaps a lot of fun too! Especially when you don't have to be accountable for your allegations because, again, this message board is ANONYMOUS. Pathetic.
Typical denial ... err I mean I am glad I am getting corrected for making up this stuff. Funny thing that there was a CBS message about this, and even a thread started by me that caused quite some emotions. Things out of place I have seen? Optical illusion. I must have been under the evil influence of those eastholes that I am making up this stuff.

All those other things reported by a Facebook group called Third Listers is also false and just made up. Simple.

West captain signing the logbbook with G.N. III? False! Just East propaganda!*

This denial attitude by GrapeNuts &co. reminds me of East Germany and their politics. It was NEVER their fault, always someone else's. Their sh!t never stank.

* It's really funny how the Feds care about a falsified signature but not about this other more serious crap!
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Old 06-30-2015 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bassslayer
The APA list was like 1000 number difference with tons of 2013 hires ahead of me.
Who were the 2013 hires? Eagle flows or who?
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Old 06-30-2015 | 12:56 PM
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Sorry for your bad treatment. You must have encountered our 1% time after time.


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There seems to be a lot of those 1%ers ...
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Old 06-30-2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
Typical denial ... err I mean I am glad I am getting corrected for making up this stuff. Funny thing that there was a CBS message about this, and even a thread started by me that caused quite some emotions. Things out of place I have seen? Optical illusion. I must have been under the evil influence of those eastholes that I am making up this stuff.

All those other things reported by a Facebook group called Third Listers is also false and just made up. Simple.

West captain signing the logbbook with G.N. III? False! Just East propaganda!*

This denial attitude by GrapeNuts &co. reminds me of East Germany and their politics. It was NEVER their fault, always someone else's. Their sh!t never stank.

* It's really funny how the Feds care about a falsified signature but not about this other more serious crap!
Yep, it is so rampant there have been no disciplinary actions taken. Wow! How do we get away with all these transgressions??? LOL

Being the consummate professional that you are, I look forward to hearing more stories villifying west pilots and seeing more threads about this subject matter. You mother has done very well!
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Old 06-30-2015 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GrapeNuts
Drizzle makes this stuff up. Ever wonder how all this happens and nobody ever gets called on the carpet for it? We see nothing in the read files, nothing coming down from the Chief Pilots office, nothing coming from HR. Up until the APA took over I was good friends with the West pilot involved with grievances and disciplinary proceedings (this pilot is also a licensed attorney) and asked him about these fables from Drizzle and Arado. Guess what- nohting EVER came across his desk. Nothing. Sure, a couple denied jump seats (from both sides), but nothing EVER resembling what Drizzle alleges. So, either the incidents didn't happen (or were just a tee bit, um, exaggerated and embellished and Drizzle, who is quite comfortable coming on an anonymous message board and launching unsubstantiated barbs at the west but was just too shaken and scared to say anyhting to his chief pilot and thus, these issues never made it to the proper channels. Or, Drizzile is nothing more than a pot-stirrer on this here anonymous message board. Sure is easy to hide behind an avatar and throw nebulous barbs at the west pilots, and perhaps a lot of fun too! Especially when you don't have to be accountable for your allegations because, again, this message board is ANONYMOUS. Pathetic.
I know what happened to me. I was convinced to not pursue any of them by my captains at the time. The west has a lot of miserable wretches, I had thought I had let this stuff go but reading this thread this morning seeing one of the creeps justifying the behavior drove me over the edge. I did my best to avoid PHX in my bidding and SAP, but the trash bag happened in CLT with a liberty tie in full glory.
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