LUS East pilots-contribute
07-23-2016, 04:08 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by cactusboy53
Only as far as you follow rules and keep your word...
“In this instance, despite a year of negotiating efforts, there was no agreement on a list. Subsequently, the Representatives choose the Undersigned as Board Chairman and opted for the Med-Arb process. Those mediation efforts, held over the course of five days in October 2006, were similarly unsuccessful. Thereafter, the Parties agreed on the arbitration ground rules, and, pursuant to the Policy, each chose a Pilot Neutral from ALPA's Pilot Neutral Master List as a nonvoting member of the Arbitration Board.”
George Nicolau, Mediator
AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007
“In this instance, despite a year of negotiating efforts, there was no agreement on a list. Subsequently, the Representatives choose the Undersigned as Board Chairman and opted for the Med-Arb process. Those mediation efforts, held over the course of five days in October 2006, were similarly unsuccessful. Thereafter, the Parties agreed on the arbitration ground rules, and, pursuant to the Policy, each chose a Pilot Neutral from ALPA's Pilot Neutral Master List as a nonvoting member of the Arbitration Board.”
George Nicolau, Mediator
AWA/AAA Opinion & Award; May 07, 2007
But go ahead and cry cry cry. I don't think that you will find much sympathy with a 5-10 year jump in seniority. Crybabies
07-23-2016, 06:21 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
The funding is for expenses already incurred through the SLI.
But go ahead and cry cry cry. I don't think that you will find much sympathy with a 5-10 year jump in seniority. Crybabies
But go ahead and cry cry cry. I don't think that you will find much sympathy with a 5-10 year jump in seniority. Crybabies
Dumb. But funny!
07-23-2016, 09:57 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
There is no excuse for any east pilot not to send money
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
07-24-2016, 01:19 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by trent890
My own personal excuse is based upon four phrases that the EPSIC chooses to use in their latest plea for funding:
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
07-24-2016, 04:51 AM
#25
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Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,293
Originally Posted by trent890
My own personal excuse is based upon four phrases that the EPSIC chooses to use in their latest plea for funding:
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
The committee has already done that, pay the bill.
This is a quintessential pilot post. Please let those you fly with know.
07-24-2016, 07:41 AM
#27
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Posts: 45
Originally Posted by trent890
My own personal excuse is based upon four phrases that the EPSIC chooses to use in their latest plea for funding:
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
1) aggressively represent East pilots
2) Protecting and
3) advocating East pilot seniority
4) the defense of your seniority
When the ISL final award has been issued, then I will determine if they have lived up to their stated purposes listed above. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the "work" that they have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate.
Have you seen the East exhibits? What they accomplished from scratch is remarkable. You already have the indications you need to contribute.
07-24-2016, 09:29 AM
#28
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Boeing 314 put that much more diplomatically than I did.
Guys, the bill is due. I wish things had been differently. I wish that USAPA had granted the west their own committee and paid the expenses of both committees. But they didn't, got sued and lost. All that money got tied up by the west.
Our committee got up and running in no time and our attorneys agreed to represent us without knowing how they would be paid, outside of the money the company gave us. Our members spent most of the last year working for us, probably at great personal expense. They did a good job, no matter what the outcome.
In all the other mergers I've been through we were assessed prior to the start. The APA doesn't do things that way, so this is how we pay.
Guys, the bill is due. I wish things had been differently. I wish that USAPA had granted the west their own committee and paid the expenses of both committees. But they didn't, got sued and lost. All that money got tied up by the west.
Our committee got up and running in no time and our attorneys agreed to represent us without knowing how they would be paid, outside of the money the company gave us. Our members spent most of the last year working for us, probably at great personal expense. They did a good job, no matter what the outcome.
In all the other mergers I've been through we were assessed prior to the start. The APA doesn't do things that way, so this is how we pay.
07-25-2016, 10:17 AM
#29
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Posts: 23
"Thank you for seeing me on short notice, Doctor. I must ask you not to bother sending me a bill, though. After my illness and your treatment of it have run their course, then I will determine if you have lived up to your stated purpose. That will determine if I will make any contribution for the 'work' that you have done, and in what amount I feel is appropriate."
07-25-2016, 11:03 AM
#30
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Posts: 55
Originally Posted by R57 relay
What a crock! The result is up to the panel. The committee did a good job, especially in the time allowed and under the circumstances. But you're going to wait and see if it suits your needs and if not let your brothers and sisters carry the weight.
The committee has already done that, pay the bill.
This is a quintessential pilot post. Please let those you fly with know.
The committee has already done that, pay the bill.
This is a quintessential pilot post. Please let those you fly with know.
That is a crock. FWIW, I've seen that same rationalization with certain west pilots. If we had all been like that, we'd have been dead in the water right from the start. There's always a few like that I suppose.
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