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Old 01-07-2017, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
Maybe it's just an awareness issue? IDK. Or maybe PBS satisfies more guys so they're not working as hard to work other days?? IDK.

I've used it to get a week's vacation over Memorial Day, Labor Day, Easter and July 4th or a week at the beach during the summer.

Bid turns that don't touch the holiday weekend. Post the trips where you're trying to get time off first. After they're gone (no guarantee) post any other trips you want to get rid of or trade those turns using the TTOT system.

As soon as bids are final guys post trips below the line. You can't get them by yourself until TTOT opens. Beforehand you can by calling the posting guy directly. I've had a completely different month before TTS/TTOT become active. Dropped some of mine to guys who called and picked up from other guys below the line.

Like all things AA, we were trained by memo. The scheduling training was the worst. Most of what I know(patchy) I learned from LAA guys and other LUS guys by trial and error.

I got litesabre early and have traded. But very little drop going on. Red, red, red and TTS saying it can't complete because of open time restrictions.

I think the key will be more participation in trade and TTS.
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
The problem is twofold...

1. Schedule gurus typically don't like to share the knowledge, because they'll loose their edge.

2. PBS is changing the game on the LAA side now as well, so they have some new tricks to learn as well.

One problem for LUS bases, is lack of participation. Hardly anyone is using TTS, and most guys probably aren't aware that they can now pick up trips in open time at any time in the month using TTOT. I've flown with a few really sharp captains who have taken the time to learn the new system and taken advantage of litesabre, and are improving their schedule. Unfortunately, they are outnumbered by the guys who literally have no clue about the new systems, and our contract. Hell, there are guys still printing the release!
With SAP others laziness helped the rest of us. Not so with the current system.
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Old 01-07-2017, 06:58 PM
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Hell, there are guys still printing the release!
I still like a paper flight plan and TPS. For the stuff you use frequently, it's easier to have a paper copy versus looking it up on the iPad.

But I'm not floating!
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:58 AM
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I'm not floating and I still print the paperwork.

The part 1 says "All clearances Dom and Int'l that do not come across acars printer MUST be written on the flight plan."

So I tried this week save the EFlight plan, then Ai thought CPDLC clearance, i'd use the IPAD pencil(marker) to write on EFlight plan the clearance to comply with the Part 1.
You cannot. Only in Jepp FD or manuals or goodreader or IBooks can you notation.

So they'll have to change Part 1 or policy until I go paperless.

Yes, I emailed chiefs.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:39 AM
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I'm not floating and I still print the paperwork.



The part 1 says "All clearances Dom and Int'l that do not come across acars printer MUST be written on the flight plan."



So I tried this week save the EFlight plan, then Ai thought CPDLC clearance, i'd use the IPAD pencil(marker) to write on EFlight plan the clearance to comply with the Part 1.

You cannot. Only in Jepp FD or manuals or goodreader or IBooks can you notation.



So they'll have to change Part 1 or policy until I go paperless.



Yes, I emailed chiefs.


So they tell us we can go paperless and you told them we can't? What'd they say?
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 7576FO View Post
I'm not floating and I still print the paperwork.

The part 1 says "All clearances Dom and Int'l that do not come across acars printer MUST be written on the flight plan."

So I tried this week save the EFlight plan, then Ai thought CPDLC clearance, i'd use the IPAD pencil(marker) to write on EFlight plan the clearance to comply with the Part 1.
You cannot. Only in Jepp FD or manuals or goodreader or IBooks can you notation.

So they'll have to change Part 1 or policy until I go paperless.

Yes, I emailed chiefs.

You can export the plan out of CCI and into an adobe reader or myMobile365 (then you can write on it). Only problem is, it doesn't always work...this needs to be fixed. The cool thing is, in your JeppFD-Pro you can swipe in from the right side and adobe reader will open with your plan. So you can have your TPS showing along with the taxi diagram.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Surprise View Post
I still like a paper flight plan and TPS. For the stuff you use frequently, it's easier to have a paper copy versus looking it up on the iPad.

But I'm not floating!
I thought I'd feel that way as well, but once you figure out a good system with the iPad, it's easier without the paper, reduces the work of, folding, tearing, etc, and makes the cockpit cleaner.

And as to the original topic, I won't be floating this year. I normally float one week to help offset mil leave.

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Old 01-08-2017, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
You can export the plan out of CCI and into an adobe reader or myMobile365 (then you can write on it). Only problem is, it doesn't always work...this needs to be fixed. The cool thing is, in your JeppFD-Pro you can swipe in from the right side and adobe reader will open with your plan. So you can have your TPS showing along with the taxi diagram.
Is there any way you get CCI to print using a laser printer instead of a high-tech 22nd century OKI 24pin print center?

I had trouble accessing wings the other day. Where on Jetnet or CCI can you print out an East pdf expense report?
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:53 AM
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Is there any way you get CCI to print using a laser printer instead of a high-tech 22nd century OKI 24pin print center?
Blasphemy!!!
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:06 AM
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Sounds like ol' TW in DFW just undercut the APA president on not floating. Good to see that the APA dysfunction continues. We're F-ed in 2020. These clowns would rather play politics then unify on something/anything for the greater good of the pilot group. I still hold out hope the new blood coming in will eventually help straighten this out one day.
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