Al Czervik

This was about unity. I have nothing but respect for those who cannot be bought.

PRS Guitars

Some bases were much worse offenders than others, and I'm sorry to report that CLT was the worst offender that I've seen. I haven't looked at every base though. MIA and LGA seemed pretty good about it.

Hopefully the APA will put out a report.

I've always thought that what will make this a unified group is retiring some of these old guys who are completely out of touch with the bottom 80% of the seniority list. Unfortunately, I don't think enough will be gone by 2020. In fact in 2020 we'll have 3,000+ who will be voting on their last contract (including SB) and they will only care about the pay rates.

Maybe in 2024 there will be hope, but I'm not convinced of that yet either.

A330FoodCritic

Absolutely not a bandwagon guy but this kinda sums it up.

Hubble15

OK, this is a bit out of hand. You don't know Slice's particulars and you aren't in his shoes, so it's cheap to sling mud the way some of you have been. We are not lemmings ... our job is not to obey directives from the APA. It is APA's responsibility to construct well-thought-out strategies and convince us of their merit. In this case, they did a decent job of illustrating how PBS changes the landscape in ways which merited a re-think on the part of floaters. If they'd made a better case, with more analysis, maybe more people would have chosen not to float.

I didn't float, but it didn't cost me much. I'm a SC guy with 19 VC days in '17/'18 due to some PVDs. I have to bid VAC to get decent time off given the SC bid sheets, so I was going to float 5 days. Floating zero cost me, what, $2700? If I was a line-holder with 31 or more days in play on a CA salary ... who's to say if I would have found the APA's proposal as compelling?

Slice contributes far more than most by spending time on here answering questions and mentoring newer pilots. He is NOT the guy you should be sh*tt*ng on. Get some perspective. Show some class. (BTW everyone should read Billyray's blast on this topic)

mainlineAF

I'm good. Slice showed his true colors. He can now listen to people berate him for selling us out.

Dudes gonna make 400k this year. I could care less about his personal situation (except extreme medical cases which he didn't say was the case/he wanted the money).

All he does for new hires is tell them they'd be more senior at AA so they should come here. Big f'ing deal. Thx slice!!

A330FoodCritic

I wish I was in his Group 4 captain shoes, just sayin.

Name User

I would like to see new standardized pay rates with every group paying the same. Narrow body guys get raises while widebody comes down. This would bring unity back to the union. With so many senior guys saying FU it could be a coup with most on property getting raises.

A330FoodCritic

Whatever you are smokin, stop it. You will get tested one day.

mainlineAF

I agree. Except the widebody pay shouldn't come down, narrowbody pay should increase to match it. But I'll settle for an average of group 3 and group 4 pay. The widebody guys would sh*t themselves.

7576FO

LIKE! LIKE! LIKE!

Sliceback is a jerk Mr 30,000 C & R posts most of which were ridiculous.

Always claiming he has friends on the BOD and tries to imply he know the BOD's every move.

7576