Originally Posted by FR8Dog7 (Post 2652512)

You are either a fool, one of them or both!
I still have friends that work there and are tired of paying 2.5%.

Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2652554)

You can not be serious. Chateau Elan is not an appropriate meeting location for a union. Last time I checked Holiday Inns still have conference rooms. This is absolutely absurd that we are paying for them to go out of their way to Braselton, Georgia that is nowhere near an airport to a winery and resort mansion to “discuss” our lack of strategy. Hopefully all of our reps broke 100 out there on the golf course. I’d hate for them to embarrass themselves at such a nice place.

Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin (Post 2652671)

Just some background on that meeting. It’s unsolicited, and I have no dog in the fight other than wanting to get accurate information out there.

I no longer work at Atlas, but was part of the meeting. The location was chosen because it was off peak season. It was freezing. So no golf. (I definitely would have exceeded 100 anyway) Place was a ghost town and affordable. Ever go to Niagra Falls in Winter? Kinda like that...

At the time, 6 individuals attending the meeting lived in or within driving distance of Atlanta. This saves on transportation costs. I took a jumpseat down and caught a ride with one of them.

Trust me, we would have much rather stayed in the city of Atlanta rather than drive to that place. I got food poisoning from their crappy lunch buffet.

Additionally, it wasn’t just a steward meeting, but the stewards called the meeting. Sometimes is is very beneficial to get people in the same room to discuss grievance proceedings in person. All stewards and one EXCO member were present, as well as some negotiating committee members and the entire scheduling committee.

In total, there were 17 people at the meeting, if memory serves. So that cost paid for meals, lodging, etc for those people for 4 days.

Anyway, it’s unsolicited information, but I thought I would throw it out there.

Good luck, and keep up the good fight. Hopefully with your bosses and not against each other.

Originally Posted by White Cap (Post 2653885)

Longer duty days? Get lost K4.

Originally Posted by White Cap (Post 2653885)

Longer duty days? Get lost K4.

Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2653969)

I'll take the longer duty days, which are rare. Than be under Teamsters anyday.

Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2653991)

He’s right you know??

Atlas guys like to chest thump about how “kalitta’s payrates are great on paper” but “the work rules are terrible”. I’d like to remind them that kalitta’s pay rates are light years ahead of Atlas and their work rules are also light years ahead. The Atlas contract is garbage and to compare it to kalitta as if Atlas possesses some sort of benchmark is lying to yourself. We are the absolute dog crap of the industry. Meanwhile, kalitta is making twice the amount of us working 1 to 3 days less.
Maybe we can dump teamsters for alpa one day.


I’ll prove kalitta has it better.. Kalitta guys, how much do you make per day you work?

Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2654070)

well in july i made $1538 per day
i worked 9 days and 7 vaca
devided my gross by 16

in june it was $1758 per day
i worked 20 days...4 OT

i'll spare you the math but in june that gross was 35k

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog (Post 2654168)

You are a new hire FO to boot....correct?