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4runner 08-13-2018 08:56 AM

Atlas isn’t going to be at OBAP? Odd.

sandstorm 08-13-2018 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 2654327)
Atlas isn’t going to be at OBAP? Odd.

Probably because they realize that they wouldn't get the highly qualified pilots that all the other much better paying and career destination airlines are after. Instead, Atlas has to lower it's standards and recruit at the same job fairs that the regional airlines are recruiting at.

FAPA.aero | Pilot Job Fairs

Elevation 08-13-2018 10:14 PM

I think this FAPA event is at ANC, which is really convenient. We love hiring local ANC pilots. I’m not sure why we don’t have folks at OBAP.

JackStraw 08-15-2018 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2654070)
well in july i made $1538 per day
i worked 9 days and 7 vaca
devided my gross by 16

in june it was $1758 per day
i worked 20 days...4 OT

i'll spare you the math but in june that gross was 35k

The idea is that at Atlas you make either 3.65 or 4.85 a day. That’s it. You worked a 20 hour duty day? Good for you. Here’s 4.85 hours.

Lockheed 08-15-2018 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 2655573)
The idea is that at Atlas you make either 3.65 or 4.85 a day. That’s it. You worked a 20 hour duty day? Good for you. Here’s 4.85 hours.

ok I think I see what you want after looking at my pay sheet for June it turns out I worked 21 days straight by choice - I had a week of vaca in July August and September so I figured why not do some OT

so here is my hourly pay by day - the first 2 and last 3 are OT days

1 - 4 hours min OT day travelled to cvg
2 - 20.5 … 13.7 hr trip paid at 150%
3 - 14.7
4 - zero
5 - 8.7
6 - zero
7 - 11.3
8 - 4.0 rsv pay
9 - 3.2 repo pay was actually 6.4 paid at 50%
10- 4.0 rsv pay
11- 10.2
12- zero
13- 4.0 rsv pay
14- 9.3
15- zero
16- 10.6
17- zero
18- 9.6
19- 4.0 min OT
20- 21.7....14.3 OT trip paid at 150% plus 3hrs dhd pay
21- 4.0 min OT - travelled home

the days with zero where either a 1/7 or the fact that the trip spanned 2 days and we just put our pay on the day the trip started

so just the days on flying was 89 hours - average month around here
the 5 days of OT got me another 56 hors for a total of 146.5 pay hours

unless you actually work at an airline its hard to understand how it works - I hope this make it a little clearer for those that are interested

Moosefire 08-15-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2655621)
ok I think I see what you want after looking at my pay sheet for June it turns out I worked 21 days straight by choice - I had a week of vaca in July August and September so I figured why not do some OT

so here is my hourly pay by day - the first 2 and last 3 are OT days

1 - 4 hours min OT day travelled to cvg
2 - 20.5 … 13.7 hr trip paid at 150%
3 - 14.7
4 - zero
5 - 8.7
6 - zero
7 - 11.3
8 - 4.0 rsv pay
9 - 3.2 repo pay was actually 6.4 paid at 50%
10- 4.0 rsv pay
11- 10.2
12- zero
13- 4.0 rsv pay
14- 9.3
15- zero
16- 10.6
17- zero
18- 9.6
19- 4.0 min OT
20- 21.7....14.3 OT trip paid at 150% plus 3hrs dhd pay
21- 4.0 min OT - travelled home

the days with zero where either a 1/7 or the fact that the trip spanned 2 days and we just put our pay on the day the trip started

so just the days on flying was 89 hours - average month around here
the 5 days of OT got me another 56 hors for a total of 146.5 pay hours

unless you actually work at an airline its hard to understand how it works - I hope this make it a little clearer for those that are interested

Ouch. But well done I suppose

Dash7AV8R 08-15-2018 04:06 PM

Lockheed

I see that the company tells everyone up front that they will be guaranteed only 50 hours the first year and 62 hours after that, ie. year two and beyond. Once past OE is a brand new FO to really expect the 50 hours or does real life reflect a much higher monthly hour total (such as your 89 hour total for June?) I see your a Captain but maybe one of your newer hire FO's could answer this if you're not sure?

elfouquer 08-15-2018 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Dash7AV8R (Post 2655860)
Lockheed

I see that the company tells everyone up front that they will be guaranteed only 50 hours the first year and 62 hours after that, ie. year two and beyond. Once past OE is a brand new FO to really expect the 50 hours or does real life reflect a much higher monthly hour total (such as your 89 hour total for June?) I see your a Captain but maybe one of your newer hire FO's could answer this if you're not sure?


Lockheed works at Kalitta where the min guarantee is 64 hours. The 50 you are referring to I believe is an Atlas thing. First year FOs at Kalitta can expect 80 to 100 hours a month.

Dash7AV8R 08-15-2018 04:25 PM

Oh, yeah, I was asking about Atlas so if anyone could answer my question about the 50 hours for them I'd appreciate it (maybe a current first year FO?). Sounds like Lockheed is one happy pilot though making 89 hours without any overtime at Kalitta pay rates

DC8DRIVER 08-15-2018 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Dash7AV8R (Post 2655860)
Lockheed

I see that the company tells everyone up front that they will be guaranteed only 50 hours the first year and 62 hours after that, ie. year two and beyond. Once past OE is a brand new FO to really expect the 50 hours or does real life reflect a much higher monthly hour total (such as your 89 hour total for June?) I see your a Captain but maybe one of your newer hire FO's could answer this if you're not sure?

The figures you quote refer to Atlas. Captain Lockheed is just visiting this thread. He works for Kalitta. He is here bragging about the Teamster 1224 contract they now operate under. It is much better than the current Atlas contract.


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