Atlas / Southern
11-26-2020, 07:37 PM
#2542
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 42
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
Tough talk for a guy who interviewed 5/18. A lot of folks with presents under the tree and turkey on the table who otherwise would have been out of a job thanks to Atlas and Southern this year. I’m thankful for that.
11-27-2020, 12:18 AM
#2544
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX
Posts: 1,504
Haven't missed a Thanksgiving, Christmas or my wife’s birthday in years. Mine yes, hers No!
Happy Thanksgiving to all of our folks with your families and especially those toting
/towing the line for the rest of us. Be safe out there.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of our folks with your families and especially those toting
/towing the line for the rest of us. Be safe out there.
11-28-2020, 12:58 AM
#2545
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 293
Originally Posted by PolarTiger
Carlson once told me, "If you want a UPS contract, then go to UPS". I wouldn't hold my breath, whatever we get is gonna be ugly. And we'll be in the exact same spot 5 years from that.
Exactly. Atlas play a very short game with regards to business but and exceedingly long game with regards to suppressing its pilot group. Prior to Covid they were willing to bankrupt the company to get their way. The extensive hiring is NOT for expansion, it is to throw cheap bodies at a problem they see coming. There will be an organic backlash (not Union organized) and potential schedule disruption when the gigantic $hit sandwich is forced down our throats in arbitration. To mitigate this they are hiring as fast as they can, it is simply tactical. As I have said here many times before the whole fight has been about scope. Scope WILL be gutted under arbitration and it is my opinion that once we are under a long term, low ball scope free contract we will be hived off to an Equity vehicle and the rest will be history. JD/JC and the officers of this outfit wil disappear into this sunset with millions and millions of $. Just ask one of our many former ATA/North American colleagues how this plays out. Atlas management are not interested in genuinely competing to make this a world class operation. They are interested in positioning the company so they can cash in their chips. This is just my opinion and I am very willing to be convinced otherwise.
11-28-2020, 08:47 AM
#2546
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Joined APC: May 2013
Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX
Posts: 1,504
Atrasaty, none of us who have been here for some time now (especially the long timers if you will - not me) will be convinced of anything until we look back at our career thru reTired eyes. Very insightful and informative post. Keep on just keeping on and we’ll just make the best of it. You know I do have the winning Lottery ticket so you all might as well quit now!!! Hey, this ticket has no expiration date, or does it. Cheers!
11-28-2020, 01:30 PM
#2547
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 50
Originally Posted by Atrasaty
Atlas management are not interested in genuinely competing to make this a world class operation. They are interested in positioning the company so they can cash in their chips.
11-29-2020, 06:49 AM
#2548
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Thread Starter
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 698
The junior pilots are feeling the Atlas love right now. Min pay, 17 days. The “fun” has worn off. The happy to have a job will be rapidly coming to an end.
No OT, no chance of anymore than 62-70 hours, the grind of being at Atlas. While your mgmt makes billions, we make 100’s of dollars a day.
Atlas will experience an Exodus once again late next year early 2022. History shall repeat itself.
After being online, now you’re beginning to see why attrition was through the roof in 17-19’.
No OT, no chance of anymore than 62-70 hours, the grind of being at Atlas. While your mgmt makes billions, we make 100’s of dollars a day.
Atlas will experience an Exodus once again late next year early 2022. History shall repeat itself.
After being online, now you’re beginning to see why attrition was through the roof in 17-19’.
11-29-2020, 08:56 AM
#2549
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 693
Originally Posted by boeingdvr
The junior pilots are feeling the Atlas love right now. Min pay, 17 days. The “fun” has worn off. The happy to have a job will be rapidly coming to an end.
No OT, no chance of anymore than 62-70 hours, the grind of being at Atlas. While your mgmt makes billions, we make 100’s of dollars a day.
Atlas will experience an Exodus once again late next year early 2022. History shall repeat itself.
After being online, now you’re beginning to see why attrition was through the roof in 17-19’.
No OT, no chance of anymore than 62-70 hours, the grind of being at Atlas. While your mgmt makes billions, we make 100’s of dollars a day.
Atlas will experience an Exodus once again late next year early 2022. History shall repeat itself.
After being online, now you’re beginning to see why attrition was through the roof in 17-19’.
11-29-2020, 11:29 AM
#2550
Gets Everyday Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Relaxed
Posts: 6,945
Originally Posted by boeingdvr
The junior pilots are feeling the Atlas love right now. Min pay, 17 days. The “fun” has worn off. The happy to have a job will be rapidly coming to an end.
No OT, no chance of anymore than 62-70 hours, the grind of being at Atlas. While your mgmt makes billions, we make 100’s of dollars a day.
Atlas will experience an Exodus once again late next year early 2022. History shall repeat itself.
After being online, now you’re beginning to see why attrition was through the roof in 17-19’.
No OT, no chance of anymore than 62-70 hours, the grind of being at Atlas. While your mgmt makes billions, we make 100’s of dollars a day.
Atlas will experience an Exodus once again late next year early 2022. History shall repeat itself.
After being online, now you’re beginning to see why attrition was through the roof in 17-19’.
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