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Old 01-11-2021, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
We are VERY busy and adding aircraft as soon as we have enough pilots to crew the planes. It also may because of the Amazon planned growth (100 additional aircraft when the new ramp opens in CVG...next, larger ramp in CVG will add 200 on top of that).
serious question- are there that many planes available?
you'd think if they have 300 more aircraft they will need another ACMI or two on top of what's available to staff it. I wouldnt think they want any ACMIs to grow big enough to accommodate that growth because the bigger one gets the more leverage they have.
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Old 01-12-2021, 03:02 AM
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serious question- are there that many planes available?
you'd think if they have 300 more aircraft they will need another ACMI or two on top of what's available to staff it. I wouldnt think they want any ACMIs to grow big enough to accommodate that growth because the bigger one gets the more leverage they have.
ATSG has around 150ish 767's....plus a few 757s and some 777s...it would be a good start.
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Old 01-12-2021, 04:35 AM
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Atlas just announced they are buying the last 4 B747-8 Freighters that Boeing will produce. 747 production is scheduled to end in 2022.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:26 AM
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I would like to congratulate all Atlas pilots. Our 50% below market and future $hitty contract has just bought 4 more nice shiny jets. Yes we paid in full for those jets... Just think about that.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
serious question- are there that many planes available?
you'd think if they have 300 more aircraft they will need another ACMI or two on top of what's available to staff it. I wouldnt think they want any ACMIs to grow big enough to accommodate that growth because the bigger one gets the more leverage they have.

There are a fair amount of 76’s and T7’s on the market at the moment. Also a couple years ago there were articles about Amazon talking to Airbus about the possibility of 330neo freighters. Not saying they would actually do that (probably just a head fake to Boeing, and obviously Airbus would have to agree to build it), but I do think they’ll do whatever they need to do to get the lift.

Who knows who’ll be flying AMZ freight in the future. Could be more ACMI’s for sure. Could be a whole other plan of action all together. Time will tell.


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Old 01-12-2021, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by blinkpilot182 View Post
Who knows who’ll be flying AMZ freight in the future. Could be more ACMI’s for sure. Could be a whole other plan of action all together. Time will tell.
21Air, NAC, Amerijet, probably Mesa. Plenty of carriers out there who would be happy to jump into the AMZN goat rope. By the time this is all said and done, Amazon will have a dozen carriers operating for it.
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Old 01-12-2021, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Atrasaty View Post
I would like to congratulate all Atlas pilots. Our 50% below market and future $hitty contract has just bought 4 more nice shiny jets. Yes we paid in full for those jets... Just think about that.
Pretty sure you don’t fully pay for a plane which you aren’t receiving for another year.
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Old 01-12-2021, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
21Air, NAC, Amerijet, probably Mesa. Plenty of carriers out there who would be happy to jump into the AMZN goat rope. By the time this is all said and done, Amazon will have a dozen carriers operating for it.

I definitely think it’s going that way.


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Old 01-12-2021, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Atrasaty View Post
I would like to congratulate all Atlas pilots. Our 50% below market and future $hitty contract has just bought 4 more nice shiny jets. Yes we paid in full for those jets... Just think about that.

It’s a catch 22. Growth is good too. Where did you hear they were paid for in full? That’s not typical of a corporation in our sector.

(Not trying to sound confrontational. Hard not to with only text)

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Old 01-12-2021, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blinkpilot182 View Post
It’s a catch 22. Growth is good too. Where did you hear they were paid for in full? That’s not typical of a corporation in our sector.

(Not trying to sound confrontational. Hard not to with only text)

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