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04-29-2021, 10:39 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: B747 FO
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
The 737 is arguably one of the more challenging aircraft in the fleet at Atlas/Southernto fly (767 being the other). Since the 737 is relegated to US Domestic right now it operates in a less challenging environment than the wide bodies. However, more than one 747/767/777 pilot will struggle if they transition or upgrade to the Guppie.
So hopefully going from the 737 to those fleets will offer the opposite experience.
04-29-2021, 03:25 PM
#52
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Posts: 694
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Yep, you were all born into the left seat of a 747 and Regional pilots never have to deal with weather, diversions or malfunctions.
Well it’s the Internet so it must be true.
By the way those were market fluctuations determining hiring requirements in the ‘90 and not the FAR’s.
Sounds like you want an FO with your level of experience for more time in the bunk.
Maybe read the FOM once in a while, it’s part of your responsibilities to share your knowledge and experience aka “teach”.
The Pathway is for the 73 anyway, no reason why a 1000hr pilot couldn’t fly a 73 domestic.
Well it’s the Internet so it must be true.
By the way those were market fluctuations determining hiring requirements in the ‘90 and not the FAR’s.
Sounds like you want an FO with your level of experience for more time in the bunk.
Maybe read the FOM once in a while, it’s part of your responsibilities to share your knowledge and experience aka “teach”.
The Pathway is for the 73 anyway, no reason why a 1000hr pilot couldn’t fly a 73 domestic.
I'm simply responding to your ridiculous implication that this program at Atlas is basically the same thing as a European ab initio program throwing 250 hour pilots into the right seat of an Airbus. It couldn't be farther from that.
And for the record I happen to have a great deal of respect for all the regional guys I've flown with. They literally turned around our union into a fighting force and know exactly what they're worth and never make excuses for corrupt and incompetent management.
04-30-2021, 05:29 AM
#53
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,351
Originally Posted by Swakid8
Considering that the 737 is limited to domestic operations. Outside of hurting our bargaining position. What’s the difference between going from 172 to RJ and 172 to 737? I was one of those 1000 hours 172 to RJ types. As long as they don’t sniff international stuff outside of Canada and Mexico. The transition will not be difficult.
If there's a mismatch between our standards, training and hiring there will be problems regardless. From my perspective patiently monitoring crew is required either way.
04-30-2021, 05:43 PM
#54
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,809
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Yep, you were all born into the left seat of a 747 and Regional pilots never have to deal with weather, diversions or malfunctions.
Well it’s the Internet so it must be true.
By the way those were market fluctuations determining hiring requirements in the ‘90 and not the FAR’s.
Sounds like you want an FO with your level of experience for more time in the bunk.
Maybe read the FOM once in a while, it’s part of your responsibilities to share your knowledge and experience aka “teach”.
The Pathway is for the 73 anyway, no reason why a 1000hr pilot couldn’t fly a 73 domestic.
Well it’s the Internet so it must be true.
By the way those were market fluctuations determining hiring requirements in the ‘90 and not the FAR’s.
Sounds like you want an FO with your level of experience for more time in the bunk.
Maybe read the FOM once in a while, it’s part of your responsibilities to share your knowledge and experience aka “teach”.
The Pathway is for the 73 anyway, no reason why a 1000hr pilot couldn’t fly a 73 domestic.
04-30-2021, 09:00 PM
#55
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Joined APC: May 2013
Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX
Posts: 1,505
[QUOTE=TiredSoul;3228066]Yep, you were all born into the left seat of a 747 and Regional pilots never have to deal with weather, diversions or malfunctions.
Well it’s the Internet so it must be true. QUOTE]
Maybe some were, but this hopefully will be my last big jet as it’s my third 4 banger and I can’t fly anything with less as I need options. Probably why they threw me to the 74 as the first 2 banger was coming on board. Trust me, I am all for advantages and as those mentioned before, training is the bedrock and the rest is up to us to reel in the slack as well as new hires reeling in ours. Atlas casts a wide net and we have some exceptional folks and this past year the latest attitudes seem more up beat and in tune with the operation as the pressure of 2020 provided more insight to the delicate balance and how rapidly aviation can tilt. Definitely not reflected on the internet so profoundly as walking thru the domestic and international airports. Quite eerie at times. Welcome aboard fellow pilots the water seems fine.
Well it’s the Internet so it must be true. QUOTE]
Maybe some were, but this hopefully will be my last big jet as it’s my third 4 banger and I can’t fly anything with less as I need options. Probably why they threw me to the 74 as the first 2 banger was coming on board. Trust me, I am all for advantages and as those mentioned before, training is the bedrock and the rest is up to us to reel in the slack as well as new hires reeling in ours. Atlas casts a wide net and we have some exceptional folks and this past year the latest attitudes seem more up beat and in tune with the operation as the pressure of 2020 provided more insight to the delicate balance and how rapidly aviation can tilt. Definitely not reflected on the internet so profoundly as walking thru the domestic and international airports. Quite eerie at times. Welcome aboard fellow pilots the water seems fine.
05-05-2021, 05:58 AM
#58
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Posts: 78
I’ve been looking around the forum, but I’m still a little fuzzy on Atlas’s acquisition of Southern. Are they officially one company, or is Southern just a separate subsidiary? Meaning, if you get hired as an FO on the 73 are you later able to bid for an FO spot on the 74 after your seat lock is up, or do you have to upgrade on 73 first and then apply to Atlas separately?
05-05-2021, 06:21 AM
#59
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Position: C172 FO
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by Broccoli Rob
I’ve been looking around the forum, but I’m still a little fuzzy on Atlas’s acquisition of Southern. Are they officially one company, or is Southern just a separate subsidiary? Meaning, if you get hired as an FO on the 73 are you later able to bid for an FO spot on the 74 after your seat lock is up, or do you have to upgrade on 73 first and then apply to Atlas separately?
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