New Atlas CBA = Colossal Union Failure
09-24-2021, 06:40 AM
#261
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Hmmmm... There are those who understand why the new contract isn't "Industry Leading".... If everyone were as brave as PB there'd have been a new contract in 2015.
Originally Posted by JT8D
Stupid pedantics on your part. They said “industry standard” over and over.
You know what, I remember being a new hire paired up with Pete. He taught me never to take any sh!$ from the company and to stand up when I felt I was being wronged. And to know my contract inside and out. I personally watched him walk off airplanes.....TWICE when he thought he was being screwed, and I happily walked alongside him. It actually empowered me to do it myself. Now that I think about it, if we were all like Pete we probably would have had a contract in 2016.
Thanks for the reminder....it's been a while since I reached out and said hello.
You management types should really check yourself as your rhetoric may have unintended consequences.
Slim
You know what, I remember being a new hire paired up with Pete. He taught me never to take any sh!$ from the company and to stand up when I felt I was being wronged. And to know my contract inside and out. I personally watched him walk off airplanes.....TWICE when he thought he was being screwed, and I happily walked alongside him. It actually empowered me to do it myself. Now that I think about it, if we were all like Pete we probably would have had a contract in 2016.
Thanks for the reminder....it's been a while since I reached out and said hello.
You management types should really check yourself as your rhetoric may have unintended consequences.
Slim
09-24-2021, 09:01 AM
#262
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Originally Posted by zerozero
Nobody ever "promised industry leading". The only promise was to fight for industry standard, and that is exactly what was delivered. I would submit that any confusion on this point probably stems from some personal hatred of certain individuals. The expression "blind hatred" comes to mind. Some people just lose all their senses.
As a matter of fact he got called out during the March/April crew call just prior or just after it went into arbitration when suddenly the term “industry standard” was substituted.
You know the webinars we’re not “allowed to record”.
probably stems from some personal hatred of certain individuals.
But hey, I probably made that up also.
09-24-2021, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Informal “hey what do you think of” surveys on the line reveal that at least 60% of the pilot group do not actively support 2750.
But hey, I probably made that up also.
But hey, I probably made that up also.
09-24-2021, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
But hey, I probably made that up also.
We're all still waiting for the black and white proof anyone in an elected leadership position ever promoted the idea of industry "leading".
09-24-2021, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Well yes they did, BK himself used the term “industry leading” more then once during crew call webinars.
As a matter of fact he got called out during the March/April crew call just prior or just after it went into arbitration when suddenly the term “industry standard” was substituted.
You know the webinars we’re not “allowed to record”.
Informal “hey what do you think of” surveys on the line reveal that at least 60% of the pilot group do not actively support 2750.
But hey, I probably made that up also.
As a matter of fact he got called out during the March/April crew call just prior or just after it went into arbitration when suddenly the term “industry standard” was substituted.
You know the webinars we’re not “allowed to record”.
Informal “hey what do you think of” surveys on the line reveal that at least 60% of the pilot group do not actively support 2750.
But hey, I probably made that up also.
09-25-2021, 10:03 AM
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"Union Failure"
Originally Posted by JT8D
Honestly what a joke. Someone should tell this “neutral” arbitrator that if pay rates are based in part on aircraft size, that a 747-8 crew should SURE AS S HIT BE MAKING MORE THAN A 767 CREW AT OMNI.
Discuss.
Discuss.
It hasn't gone unnoticed by FedEx. They've signed a deal to lay off more flying to Atlas thereby putting even more pressure on pilot wages and working conditions country wide.
09-25-2021, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by flightbag
Union failure? I think not! The union is no stronger than the pilots it represents. It appears the Atlas pilots are a bunch of whimps.
It hasn't gone unnoticed by FedEx. They've signed a deal to lay off more flying to Atlas thereby putting even more pressure on pilot wages and working conditions country wide.
It hasn't gone unnoticed by FedEx. They've signed a deal to lay off more flying to Atlas thereby putting even more pressure on pilot wages and working conditions country wide.
09-25-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Calling us whimps is a good point? He lost me with that one.
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