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ace7 10-09-2022 12:47 PM
Upgrades
 
Can anyone comment on upgrade seniority times at all?

jrmyl 10-09-2022 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by ace7 (Post 3509504)
Can anyone comment on upgrade seniority times at all?
Expect around 5-6 years on everything except the 737.

BrazilBusDriver 10-11-2022 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by ace7 (Post 3509504)
Can anyone comment on upgrade seniority times at all?
747
  • MIA - 4/9/2012
  • JFK - 10/12/2015
  • ORD - 1/11/2016
  • MEM - 7/28/2016
  • CVG - 8/8/2016
  • LAX - 9/19/2016
  • ANC - 1/9/2017
777 (Previously Southern)
  • MIA - 4/4/2016 (note: this vacancy award occurred post-merger and is likely a good analogue for current upgrade times)
  • CVG - 3/12/2018
  • LAX - 1/7/2019
767
  • JFK - 8/17/2015
  • TPA - 2/22/2016
  • IAH - 4/4/2016
  • CVG - 6/5/2017
  • ONT - 8/14/2017
  • PDX - 8/14/2017
737 (Previously Southern)
  • PDX - 5/13/2019 (note: this vacancy award occurred post-merger and is likely a good analogue for current upgrade times)
  • CVG - 12/3/2019

dera 10-11-2022 06:26 PM
Still no love for IAH 747?

ace7 10-11-2022 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver (Post 3510829)
747
  • MIA - 4/9/2012
  • JFK - 10/12/2015
  • ORD - 1/11/2016
  • MEM - 7/28/2016
  • CVG - 8/8/2016
  • LAX - 9/19/2016
  • ANC - 1/9/2017
777 (Previously Southern)
  • MIA - 4/4/2016 (note: this vacancy award occurred post-merger and is likely a good analogue for current upgrade times)
  • CVG - 3/12/2018
  • LAX - 1/7/2019
767
  • JFK - 8/17/2015
  • TPA - 2/22/2016
  • IAH - 4/4/2016
  • CVG - 6/5/2017
  • ONT - 8/14/2017
  • PDX - 8/14/2017
737 (Previously Southern)
  • PDX - 5/13/2019 (note: this vacancy award occurred post-merger and is likely a good analogue for current upgrade times)
  • CVG - 12/3/2019
Thank you very much I appreciate your response.

BrazilBusDriver 10-12-2022 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 3510909)
Still no love for IAH 747?
Haha, good catch. Digging through the seniority list is more work than I'm up for tonight, mostly because the flight bag is packed and not readily accessible. I'll put it on my hobby to-do list.

160to4 10-12-2022 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver (Post 3510829)
747
  • MIA - 4/9/2012
  • JFK - 10/12/2015
  • ORD - 1/11/2016
  • MEM - 7/28/2016
  • CVG - 8/8/2016
  • LAX - 9/19/2016
  • ANC - 1/9/2017
777 (Previously Southern)
  • MIA - 4/4/2016 (note: this vacancy award occurred post-merger and is likely a good analogue for current upgrade times)
  • CVG - 3/12/2018
  • LAX - 1/7/2019
767
  • JFK - 8/17/2015
  • TPA - 2/22/2016
  • IAH - 4/4/2016
  • CVG - 6/5/2017
  • ONT - 8/14/2017
  • PDX - 8/14/2017
737 (Previously Southern)
  • PDX - 5/13/2019 (note: this vacancy award occurred post-merger and is likely a good analogue for current upgrade times)
  • CVG - 12/3/2019

Excellent work!

I don’t think those numbers will change much, even with the current order of 7 more aircraft. I do think the upgrade times will improve due to the attrition the company has witnessed in 2021-22

Roverruckus 10-12-2022 10:11 PM
I think it's going to stay pretty close to 5 years unless they really ramp up the upgrades. (Which might come after this backlog of FO new hire training). I've been here about 2 and a half years and with 15 upgrades a month (Which is on the high side with how the vacancy numbers have worked out lately.) it would put me at 5 and half years to upgrade to a widebody with the current seniorities. The amount of resignations don't really come into account for upgrade time that much because a vast majority of the resignations are from those with less than 2 years seniority anyways.

dera 10-12-2022 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver (Post 3511565)
Haha, good catch. Digging through the seniority list is more work than I'm up for tonight, mostly because the flight bag is packed and not readily accessible. I'll put it on my hobby to-do list.
From the last vacancy award.

IAH 747 CA 05/11/2015
IAH 747 FO 07/19/2021

BrazilBusDriver 11-21-2022 07:46 AM
November Seniority List - Junior CA & FO
 
747
  • MIA - 7/2/2012 | 1/24/2022
  • IAH - 5/11/2015 | 11/15/2021
  • JFK - 10/12/2015 | 8/1/2022
  • ORD - 1/11/2016 | 5/30/2022
  • MEM - 7/28/2016 | 6/20/2022
  • CVG - 10/31/2016 | 8/1/2022
  • LAX - 9/19/2016 | 6/20/2022
  • ANC - 1/9/2017 | New Hire Base
777 (Previously Southern)
  • MIA - 4/4/2016 | 7/5/2022
  • CVG - 12/4/2018 | New Hire Base
  • LAX - 1/7/2019 |10/10/2022
767
  • JFK - 9/28/2015 | 3/29/2022
  • TPA - 6/12/2016 | 4/19/2022
  • IAH - 2/22/2016 | 5/10/2022
  • CVG - 7/24/2017 | New Hire Base
  • ONT - 8/14/2017 | 10/4/2022
  • PDX - 8/14/2017 | 10/4/2022
737 (Previously Southern)
  • PDX - 6/24/2019 | 10/11/2022
  • CVG - 12/3/2019 | New Hire Base
Currently 2800 on the seniority list; +110 from September's tally.


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