Atlas Air Hiring
06-25-2015, 09:36 AM
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Position: 747
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70 +/- days long but not what I'd call thorough.
The Atlas schoolhouse new hire program is a teach-it-to-yourself deal.
There is no, for all practical purposes, classroom teaching of aircraft systems or flight procedures. It is all computer based "training" (i.e. slideshow watching) prior to the oral and flow memorization and non-standard "techniques" prior to the checkride.
Those with prior heavy Boeing experience seem to do better in the oral and those with heavy jet FMS experience seem to do better in the checkride. YMMV
Atlas is in the process of switching from the Pelesys CBT's to a new vendor, but it'll still be teaching by slideshow.
Atlas seems to rely on new hires to get a study group together with their classmates as a substitute for having an instructor available to teach and answer questions.
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The Atlas schoolhouse new hire program is a teach-it-to-yourself deal.
There is no, for all practical purposes, classroom teaching of aircraft systems or flight procedures. It is all computer based "training" (i.e. slideshow watching) prior to the oral and flow memorization and non-standard "techniques" prior to the checkride.
Those with prior heavy Boeing experience seem to do better in the oral and those with heavy jet FMS experience seem to do better in the checkride. YMMV
Atlas is in the process of switching from the Pelesys CBT's to a new vendor, but it'll still be teaching by slideshow.
Atlas seems to rely on new hires to get a study group together with their classmates as a substitute for having an instructor available to teach and answer questions.
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06-25-2015, 03:11 PM
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
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70 +/- days long but not what I'd call thorough.
The Atlas schoolhouse new hire program is a teach-it-to-yourself deal.
There is no, for all practical purposes, classroom teaching of aircraft systems or flight procedures. It is all computer based "training" (i.e. slideshow watching) prior to the oral and flow memorization and non-standard "techniques" prior to the checkride.
Those with prior heavy Boeing experience seem to do better in the oral and those with heavy jet FMS experience seem to do better in the checkride. YMMV
Atlas is in the process of switching from the Pelesys CBT's to a new vendor, but it'll still be teaching by slideshow.
Atlas seems to rely on new hires to get a study group together with their classmates as a substitute for having an instructor available to teach and answer questions.
8
The Atlas schoolhouse new hire program is a teach-it-to-yourself deal.
There is no, for all practical purposes, classroom teaching of aircraft systems or flight procedures. It is all computer based "training" (i.e. slideshow watching) prior to the oral and flow memorization and non-standard "techniques" prior to the checkride.
Those with prior heavy Boeing experience seem to do better in the oral and those with heavy jet FMS experience seem to do better in the checkride. YMMV
Atlas is in the process of switching from the Pelesys CBT's to a new vendor, but it'll still be teaching by slideshow.
Atlas seems to rely on new hires to get a study group together with their classmates as a substitute for having an instructor available to teach and answer questions.
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06-25-2015, 06:39 PM
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Left & Right
Posts: 187
70 +/- days long but not what I'd call thorough.
The Atlas schoolhouse new hire program is a teach-it-to-yourself deal.
There is no, for all practical purposes, classroom teaching of aircraft systems or flight procedures. It is all computer based "training" (i.e. slideshow watching) prior to the oral and flow memorization and non-standard "techniques" prior to the checkride.
...
Atlas seems to rely on new hires to get a study group together with their classmates as a substitute for having an instructor available to teach and answer questions.
8
The Atlas schoolhouse new hire program is a teach-it-to-yourself deal.
There is no, for all practical purposes, classroom teaching of aircraft systems or flight procedures. It is all computer based "training" (i.e. slideshow watching) prior to the oral and flow memorization and non-standard "techniques" prior to the checkride.
...
Atlas seems to rely on new hires to get a study group together with their classmates as a substitute for having an instructor available to teach and answer questions.
8
I just finished....pretty much a self-taught 747 program. Crazy.
FWIW, I was among the first in my class to finish at 65 days.
06-25-2015, 08:28 PM
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Position: B767 CA
Posts: 1,100
I don't disagree with the statements above and even the sentiment above, but how is the way Atlas training works any different than any other major airline program? All have changed to CBT-based instruction. And therefore the old-style lecture-based classroom work is obsolete in the industry.
I do agree the program is hampered by the complexity of our operations, the many different types of 747s in our fleet, and complicated by the shockingly disorganized company website...well, never mind, it is actually a good introduction to your life as an Atlas pilot...chaotic and stressful.
So, in fact, it is actually the best training in the world...there is nothing to see here, move on please!!
I do agree the program is hampered by the complexity of our operations, the many different types of 747s in our fleet, and complicated by the shockingly disorganized company website...well, never mind, it is actually a good introduction to your life as an Atlas pilot...chaotic and stressful.
So, in fact, it is actually the best training in the world...there is nothing to see here, move on please!!
06-26-2015, 02:43 AM
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 154
I don't disagree with the statements above and even the sentiment above, but how is the way Atlas training works any different than any other major airline program? All have changed to CBT-based instruction. And therefore the old-style lecture-based classroom work is obsolete in the industry.
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06-26-2015, 08:20 AM
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 4
Hey all,
Just got the test email. Any good intel out there on the current stuff? I hear the test has been through a few iterations since I applied a year ago. Any help is appreciated.
I'm a 4,500 hr ex C-5 guy. Thanks in advance!
Cheers
Just got the test email. Any good intel out there on the current stuff? I hear the test has been through a few iterations since I applied a year ago. Any help is appreciated.
I'm a 4,500 hr ex C-5 guy. Thanks in advance!
Cheers
06-26-2015, 08:24 AM
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 127
I don't disagree with the statements above and even the sentiment above, but how is the way Atlas training works any different than any other major airline program? All have changed to CBT-based instruction. And therefore the old-style lecture-based classroom work is obsolete in the industry.
I do agree the program is hampered by the complexity of our operations, the many different types of 747s in our fleet, and complicated by the shockingly disorganized company website...well, never mind, it is actually a good introduction to your life as an Atlas pilot...chaotic and stressful.
So, in fact, it is actually the best training in the world...there is nothing to see here, move on please!!
I do agree the program is hampered by the complexity of our operations, the many different types of 747s in our fleet, and complicated by the shockingly disorganized company website...well, never mind, it is actually a good introduction to your life as an Atlas pilot...chaotic and stressful.
So, in fact, it is actually the best training in the world...there is nothing to see here, move on please!!
Having recently moved on, I agree that other airlines use the CBT method, but in my experience the Atlas CBTs were substantially worse than others in quality and current content. I know they are planning a new system and hopefully that will help. The program also needs to move out of the past and join the current airline training movement. Training someone for 2 months in the left seat and wanting them to "demonstrate captain authority" on a checkride in the left seat is ridiculous. Even worse is then only giving them about 2 hours of training in the right seat before sending them to OE. Train them for the job you want them to do. This was my experience at Atlas and it was completely different at my new job. Maybe the eventual move to AQP will help with that. That's probably on the same schedule as the 777s
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06-26-2015, 10:06 PM
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Position: New Hire
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Page 1099 Tech Test Prep
Page 1099 has the best tech test guide ever in the history of Atlas Air.....simply ze best
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