Hey all,

Just got the test email. Any good intel out there on the current stuff? I hear the test has been through a few iterations since I applied a year ago. Any help is appreciated.

I'm a 4,500 hr ex C-5 guy. Thanks in advance!

Cheers

 

Having recently moved on, I agree that other airlines use the CBT method, but in my experience the Atlas CBTs were substantially worse than others in quality and current content. I know they are planning a new system and hopefully that will help. The program also needs to move out of the past and join the current airline training movement. Training someone for 2 months in the left seat and wanting them to "demonstrate captain authority" on a checkride in the left seat is ridiculous. Even worse is then only giving them about 2 hours of training in the right seat before sending them to OE. Train them for the job you want them to do. This was my experience at Atlas and it was completely different at my new job. Maybe the eventual move to AQP will help with that. That's probably on the same schedule as the 777s


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Go back a few pages for a plethora of info.

 

Page 1099 has the best tech test guide ever in the history of Atlas Air.....simply ze best

 

I just resent my usual application update, and I was wondering, what is the deal with the PAC portion that deals with Operating Experience and Simulator Qualifications? do they only look at people who qualify for Initial PIC in a Level C?

 

They certainly prefer pilots who qualify under 61.64. I've never heard of them doing bounces and having a bunch of pilots with the the PIC limitation would drive scheduling crazy.

 

61.64 is very easy to qualify just about anybody under... have a look at 121 Appendix H, and what a Level C can be used for as part of a sim training program for Part 121. Do they only hire guys who qualify for Level C sims?

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Okay I am going to address this as an outsider... (K4 -400 pilot), when I was hired at K4 over 4 years ago.... we had a typical training program much like what is still in place at Atlas. Same sort of time line in total about 8 weeks,,, indoc, ground school, oral, training sessions and sim and check ride. For me it was an all summer affair. over two years ago we moved to AQP... not with out LOTS of pain I might add.... for initial hires.. that has cut down the training time line to about 5 1/2 weeks because of the CBTs and a streamlined FTD/SIM schedule. Note: under the old program.. yes all training was left seat oriented... under our AQP program some training is left seat oriented but the vast majority is right seat oriented... FAA doesn't give a damn what seat you fly from for your MV... difference under AQP is that its a balance of work sort of thing... several mini checks then a maneuvers validation (sorta like an old PC) followed by three LOFTS and finally an LOE (line oriented eval) and another mini oral. This final ride especially actually serves as the type ride albeit for both pilots its your body of work that is evaluated. make sense.. probably not. in short..AQP will save a bit of time on the time line.. but at least in our case it actually puts more pressure on home study on the pilots. another note... in our old -400 Ground school you did CBTs half day.. and half day with an instructor to go over the material... now... you get three days of review with an instructor actually half days...thats it. YMMV. good luck guys.

 

Okay..one more thing... I transitioned to the -400 from the classic last year... wait for it... that was a start to finish 26 day program WITH weekends off 20 work days....... no time for BS.

 

Since you're likely to end up in a level C sim, those who qualify would be preferred.