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Old 08-01-2015, 06:06 PM
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What's of more concern to someone who is genuinely interested in Atlas due to the possibility of international commuting is whether or not provisions which make life overseas very workable in your current CBA will remain. Or will they be "traded" to square away other items.
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:29 PM
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There's nothing in our current contract specifically about international commuting to give up. Its somewhat workable with the gateway and alternate travel language in the contract, I doubt you'll see that traded away. It becomes more workable as you get seniority at certain bases where you can consistently bid lines that have you deadhead out of your base to begin operating overseas.
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:56 PM
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Sometimes it's the lack of language, or the permissive language (VXing on front end) that can make a world of difference. If it gets nailed down to "all trips, whether VX or not, must start and end at your Domicile/Gateway" that could be a significant issue, especially to someone with a life overseas.
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:13 PM
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All trips(VX included) do have to start and end at your base per the contract. You don't actually have to get to your base if its a deadhead and you want to go straight from your home but for scheduling/pay purposes you have to be patterned as if you were.
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:29 AM
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Thank you for all the info on this thread. It was a big help.
Applied early March. (2nd time)
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:45 AM
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^^ Congrats! Which plane? 74 or 76?
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Old 08-02-2015, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
What's of more concern to someone who is genuinely interested in Atlas due to the possibility of international commuting is whether or not provisions which make life overseas very workable in your current CBA will remain. Or will they be "traded" to square away other items.
All that may be true, but it is still a risky proposition, and guys have ended up buying very expensive tickets to get back to the States when their plan fall apart -- not to mention many days lost to commuting. It is certainly doable but be very careful as a newbie on probation.
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Old 08-02-2015, 02:41 AM
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So the next contract is going (or intended) to be "not-ideal" for overseas commuters? Or will international gateways become an option?
That is a question that is not even on the radar...it is simply not a concern one way or another. In all honesty, there are many more pressing issues, and this one is simply not on anyone's radar as one that needs to be addressed. The dozen or so guys that live abroad are welcome to make their case to the negotiating folks, but how much capital they wish to burn up just to get something that matters to a minute section of our population is yet to be determined.
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Old 08-02-2015, 05:58 AM
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Aug 10 class all 747. I believe the plan was 767's on the 17th.
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:19 AM
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^^ Congrats! Which plane? 74 or 76?
Thanks.
747 as of now.
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