There are certain TSA security directives that the ACMI carriers comply with to allow it. FedEx/UPS chooses to NOT comply with them.

Now cue the "what about the FedEx pilot that tried to crash into the building" crowd. Whatever, different time, different security (lack of) procedures in place.

Longhauler and Atlas Shrugged,

Thanks for the information!

"crjdriver05"

email me. Add atyahoo.com to my username.....u don't have enough posts for private messaging.

cliff
HSV

Any Atlas types know when the next round of calls will go out?
Do they make the calls on a certain day of the week or time of the day?
Any word on Jan class dates?
Also, did anyone who completed the PAQ get a call yet?
I assume that the calls for the mid-December interviews have been done (or maybe I'm just impatient) and they are processing the online tests from that batch of candidates. I've had resumes and recs in since July and did the PAQ last week.
Standing by ...

Me too and I haven't heard a word. Good Luck!!!

I'm in the same boat. I was kinda hoping the new PAQ would maybe weed out some of the older resumes without PAQs and increase the chance of a call, at least until everybody updated their resumes to include a PAQ. Just theoretical as I have no idea when and how they actually screen.

Good luck-

KC

Sorry I have not responded to the Jumpseating question a few days ago...I'm at home now, and less likely to check these pages.

Anyway, others have answered the questions...

Anybody interview in the 14th and wanna share? Heading into the belly of the beast tomorrow, trying to think happy thoughts!

One of our guys did some # crunching on the internal site and here is some useful info on projected retirements ......

So, I updated the merged list and came up with some interesting statistics.

# of Active Atlas FE: 59 (10 FE/jet) 6 aircraft

# of AAWH Pilots: 753 on published sen lists (24ish newhires after our list published)

Atlas 554 (224 CA, 330 FO) 40-60% ratio (9 CA/jet, 13.2 FO/jet) 25 aircraft
Poler 199 (90 CA, 109 FO) 45-55% ratio (15 CA/jet, 18.2 FO/jet) 6 aircraft

After 50 upgrades and including newhires: (274 CA, 304 FO) 47-53% ratio

Ave AAWH pilot age: 51 yrs
Atlas 52 yrs
Poler 48.5 yrs

# of AAWH pilots over 60: 125

Age 65 Retirements:

2011 - 7
2012 - 9
2013 - 36
2014 - 42
2015 - 31

I know, find something better to do with my time...

Good info.

Thx C5Nwhale.

Well any news from the recent interviewees?????

Sorry, kinda vague...such as??

latest interview
 

I was in this last week. Great experience, all of the gouge is spot on. They said phone calls or letters will go out in about 2 weeks but, the holidays might delay it a little. No word on the next class date. If you get the interview, be honest, be yourself. They've already decided you have the experience they want by the time you get to the face to face part, like many others posted they want to see if you can make it on the road for long periods of time without the rest of the crew killing you. IMHO

Or you (generic "you", please take it as such!!) killing the rest of the crew!!

Good Point.

I was in last week as well, and it followed the format spoken of by others. If anyone really want's the rundown PM me and I'll send out a blastmail. Everyone very pleasant, no bad cops for me at least. Seemed genuinely interested in finding out weather I’d be a good fit. I was at ease during the whole process and feel it went really well. They mentioned the stats of 8000 resumes accepted since March, 1000 actually read, and called/tested/interviewed enough to hire 85ish. My personal situation is 5500TT, 3000 PIC TURB (all EMB-145), and one internal rec (Atlas jumpseater from last summer that sent my resume in is all). All 11 of us in the interview were real random (Military, Heavy Cargo, Regional CA and FO, Emirates guy). Oh, I do have 2 hrs in the -400 sim at the United training center. I’m sure that was the kicker! JK:) Good luck to all, I hope I get the opportunity to go work for them. If not, I guess it wasn't meant to be. Merry Christmas everybody!

I've met quit a few of the FNG's on the line and they are the top of the line. The check captains have nothing but good things to say. Bottom line, the current hiring process is working. Bad news, Atlas has already lost guys to Jet Blue, SW, and others.

Most of us, that have been here awhile, keep commenting on how we couldn't get hired thru the current process! Lots of rumors for the new year.

Any rumors on whether trip length will be reduced with the new contract? Or will the company still keep guys out for 17 (extendable to 21)

We have no firm info on the new contract, just rumors. Looks like 17 days, extendable to 20, but with trip rigs, which will make 17 days around 82 hours of pay, and extended days A LOT more expensive. Time will tell.

Yes, for some (most). Depends what line you are awarded. PBS going away for these exact reasons.

Any ideas as to when the new contract will be public?

Also, for guard guys, does Atlas pull you out of CASS when you're on mil leave?

Thanks...

New base bid award shows 62 vacancies. 200/400 mix :)

You drop out of cass after 30 days.

I'm not sure about that...I think you stay in CASS unless you've been laid off. Don't quote me though...

One of the union reps told me they don't pull you out of CASS

So what was the pilot group/union's opinion about being out for 17 days? Did they try to negotiate that number down or is it something the company is not willing to even address? Heard there are some new hires quitting during the first year because Atlas is leaving them out for a full 17 even if they've finished their rotation in 14. Even though there is no way for scheduling to use them, the pilots are not permitted to go home. Can anyone confirm this?

Gonna have to wait for the new CBA. We can guess for days. Only one thing is certain, things are gonna change. Rumors seem to point at change for the better, but who knows.

I'm new here, but close to the source. I have only posted what I have heard directly from that source or the union. They came in last week to speak to my class (we tried to interrogate them thoroughly) and they had good things to say. Most of the stuff.f everyone here is talking about is TAd.

Confirmed:
Duty rig
Pay raise
Bid lines = less days out + company pays more for extending
New cities on gateway list
Don't lose gateway if bidding out of base

That's all. Keep y'all posted.

Dunnno if I answered the question, I just wanted to add, if you (generic) can't handle the 17 days out, maybe Atlas isn't the right place for you. They make that VERY clear in the hiring process.

Happy holidays. T

Bingo! ACMI is what it is and fluidity is a fact of life. That part is appealing to some (me included) but an anathema to others. If one is looking for a lot of structure in the schedule then this isn't the place to be. If you get a kick out of waking up and seeing where you might be headed the next day then you'll fit right in. Most seem to bid days off and whatever happens while you're on the road is just part of the adventure.

I think you meant to say "trip rig"?. :eek:

Ok, guys, listen up...

Atlas is not a carrier that goes by a schedule of flights per day, week, or month. The company flies schedules FOR other airlines and they determine where they want our airplanes to fly...these schedules are in a constant state of flux, sometimes several times a day, and the flight ops team tries to manage trip sequences for 500 of us. As does Southern, World, Evergreen, Kalitta, etc.

THEY OWN YOU FOR 17 DAYS...there is no such thing as a trip being 14 days long, and then you get to go home. Once you finish your 14-day sequence, you might get to go home, but you may also be flying till your 17th day is over, or you may be extended into days off, within the confines of the CBA.

I gave up two off days this year...TOTAL. It is not a normal thing to be extended, but it does happen. And people do volunteer some of their scheduled days off...:mad:

I have said it before, as have others...if you can only work a 4 day, with English-speaking ATC, radar coverage, and only two or three time zones...ATLAS IS NOT FOR YOU.

However, if you want an adventure, see the world, fly with great crews, and fly some great airplanes...give it a shot.

Sorry for the harsh tone...please don't send any nasty-grams. I'm not interested and not going to reply to them.

And no, I am not defensive about the QoL issues at Atlas...I just don't have any patience for people that take these jobs and claim that they didn't know what they were getting into...there is plenty of information here (APC) and other web forums (PPW, PPRUNE, etc).

Good luck...744driver

Well said 744driver.....and I'm waiting for a call! I'm one of those individuals who had a career snatched out from under them by corporate greed, and hope to be lucky enough to find a second home to finish that career. Don't need the pax thing anymore...been there, done that, got the T shirt....just want job security in a firm that has for the most part, got it's head on reasonably straight for the last several years of my career. Atlas is high on my list!

Good luck to all that are interested and can put up with the Atlas lifestyle ...which (as a lot of you know, and I certainly appreciate it) is not as bad as some make it out to be.

One has to take a step back and understand that there are worse places to be (and only a select few better ones).

I'm trying to give it a shot. Waiting for my telephone to ring. It rang about 6 weeks ago for an initial screening but never got a second call for an interview.

Being a bachelor with no strong ties to a home I think I'd fit right in with Atlas. The trick seems to be to get the HR folks to know I'm not kidding when I say so.

New to writing on the thread, but have been reading it for awhile now. Got a call two weeks ago and took the online test last week. Thanks for info from this thread, helped tremendously. Setup an interview in Jan, was wondering if they still do a sim ride?

No sim check.

744driver-

Out of curiosity regarding the 17 day trips, are there any schedules built with a split, say maybe 10+7? Any word on whether the new TA will effect this? It doesn't bother me, but with kids that is a long time to be away sometimes. My idea schedule would be more like 14 on/14 off. Is Atlas filled with a bunch of bachelors or are there a lot of family guys/gals there as well?

Know anybody or anybody here at Atlas and still in the guard/reserve? How do the work around ML leave? I still have a commitment left and to be honest, if I have to do all my AF reserve stuff on my days off every month, that will not work. I can understand the companies side, but, a 17 day trip followed by 5-6 days at the base then 5 days off before starting all over again, every month, is not sustainable.

Still very interested, just trying to get the facts, if I should be so blessed to get an interview and have to make a decision.

Thanks and Merry Christmas!

KC

744driver.....thanks for the response.

I was lucky enough to be in the interview group last week, here's my take:

Stayed at the Airport Marriott Miami, there are other hotels in the Marriott complex all centrally located and just about a 10 minute drive from the Atlas training center. I arrived about 40 minutes early because I didn't know the area very well and didn't want to fight traffic. Getting there early turned out to be useful; there were a few students and sim instructors who came over and talked with me about the job, etc., very nice people, down to earth. The interview day started at 715 with a company powerpoint describing what Atlas does, their corporate philosophy, and financial performance. There were about 3 individuals from HR there, and when the morning presentation was done, interviews started.

There were about 11 of us in the group, they took us 2 at a time to the interview, although interviews were individually done. Everything was scheduled so you knew from the beginning of the day when your interview was. After the first 2 people went to interview, the rest were given a writing assessment. I could post the topic, but it won't help. They change it. [Same goes for the online assessment]. Could be technical, could be generic. We were given 30 minutes to write a page or so. After that we filled out HR paperwork, not difficult.

The interview itself consisted of 3 interviews: a technical, resume/experience review, and HR/company panel interview. The technical and resume review may either be 1st or 2nd, but I believe the HR panel was last. Technical portion was extremely low threat and, well, actually very informative. I learned quite a bit and when the allotted 15 minutes were up I actually wanted to stay. We went over questions I missed from the online assessment, discussed V1 and abort/reject philosophy since I'd been working on developing SOPs for that (also a test question). I got a 74 which he said was a great score. I still felt stupid for missing so many questions, but you don't need a high score to get hired.

The resume review was just that. Asking questions about your work/education history and confirming you are who you claim to be, and aren't lying about your experience. They don't require you bring logbooks. I brought a printout of my military hours from our ARMS office, but did not bring civilian logbooks. I undercut my claimed times by a small margin just to be safe. Again, this was non-threating and relaxed. I had ample time to ask questions about the company, lifestyle, etc. Also asked about company fuel savings policies, future expansion, and other general questions I had written down prior to the interview.

The HR portion was next, and, wait for it, was non-threatening and laid back. 3 on one panel, each asked a few questions. As 744Driver put it, they want to be sure that you can handle the lifestyle of being on the road for extended periods of time and not turn into a diva. There are standard questions here, nothing tricky. I was asked about a time I did something stupid in the plane. Pick something dumb you did and explain how you learned from it and became a better pilot. Be yourself, be honest, and let the process work. This is a two-way street. You may find out that Atlas isn't a fit, or they may think it isn't a fit for you. Trust their judgement, they've been doing this a long time and can pick out personalities that may not be compatible with their lifestyle. I've done this for the guard and the philosophies are the same: Find the guy/gal who can handle extended trips and won't burn out, will be fun on the road, and will be competent in and out of the cockpit.

A captain came to discuss lifestyle/company questions we had, lunch was catered (very good), and we had a tour of the facilities. Very nice equipment here. After that, those who had already interviewed were free to go, but interviews were scheduled up until around 5pm. The airport Marriott let me keep my bags there and keep the room until 5. You can also store a bag at Atlas during the interview.

My advice for those interviewing in the near future would be to study up on the company. Go to the website and download investor info (they tell you to do this for the interview). Become familiar with what Atlas does and the lifestyle it entails. Review weather, weather charts, RVSM airspace, MNPS, RNP, ICAO, TAF/METAR code, anything you can get your hands on for international/oceanic flying. Remember they browse these forums and change questions for future groups. Your experience may vary. I studied what I was told to study during the phone interview and everything went well.

Hope some of this helps out future interviewees. Everyone at Atlas was very friendly and down to earth; I had a great time interviewing there and learned a few things along the way. Overall a great experience and the impression I left with was Atlas will be a great company to work for. Good luck to everyone,

cheers

Nice write-up of your experience. I'm sure others will benefit from your posting here...good luck to you.