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744driver 05-05-2016 07:45 PM

However, the twenty jets for Amazon will arrive (from a pie in the sky source!!) in stages, not all at once, and certainly not all by the end of this year. So, as much as I'd like to see our very qualified FOs get in the Left seat ASAP, it's not gonna happen overnight.

sandrich 05-06-2016 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 2123475)
I would double your number on the low end. Up to 500 on the high end. It really depends on monthly block hours, not so much on the number of airplanes.

And to add, the ALSO want to expand the 777 and grow the 737 for the -800freighter and VIP Charters. Where are these bodies going to come from?

CaptainHvac 05-06-2016 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by sandrich (Post 2123722)
And to add, the ALSO want to expand the 777 and grow the 737 for the -800freighter and VIP Charters. Where are these bodies going to come from?

The bodies won't be coming from anywhere. Management will blame us when they can't staff the operation. They will blame the union and try everything to divide the group, maybe start another certificate to threaten us, anything. I will put nothing past them.

DashTrash73 05-06-2016 09:38 AM

Atlas Crew Members,

The voting period for the Strike Authorization Vote for Atlas Air crew members closed today at 12:00 noon EDT. Following are the results of the membership vote:

YES: 1,115 (99.6% of voting members)
NO: 4

Total Ballots: 1,119
Total Electorate: 1,204
Percentage Voted: 92.94%

The Strike Authorization Vote passed a membership vote by an overwhelming margin. This vote authorizes the International Brotherhood of Teamsters to call a strike against Atlas Air in the event it becomes necessary.

Fraternally,

Tim Jewell
Secretary Treasurer
APA Teamsters Local 1224

206TonTakeoff 05-06-2016 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 2123475)
I would double your number on the low end. Up to 500 on the high end. It really depends on monthly block hours, not so much on the number of airplanes.

Good point, I guess it's not taking into account planes set aside for reserve and the ones in mx as well. Depends on how many Amazon Prime members REALLY want their yoga balls......

boeingdvr 05-07-2016 03:20 AM

IMO - the company made a huge mistake not getting a deal done before this Amazon announcement. It further powers the pilot group.

Atrasaty 05-07-2016 06:19 AM

The MBA brain trust in Purchase are just going to their one and only play book, to be fair it worked well for them in a different time and in a very different climate. Those here long enough have been down the road of AABO, AACS and GSS and lived through furloughs and threats of furlough during the Polar/Atlas amalgamation. The stooges in Purchase really think will will fold like a cheap suit to get our hands on a bunch of 767's, send them to FW for all I care. I would rather be a First Officer with a solid contract than a Captain under the POS one they would see me have.

longhauler 05-07-2016 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2124235)
IMO - the company made a huge mistake not getting a deal done before this Amazon announcement. It further powers the pilot group.

Did the Union know this deal was in the works? If they did then NDA's would have been signed and a component of the SEC regulations and not much could have been done.

DC8DRIVER 05-08-2016 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin (Post 2123464)
Not arbitration... Mediation. Arbitration is what we are trying to avoid.

Wrong choice of words. Thanks for the correction.


Originally Posted by Whale Driver (Post 2123439)
Arbitration and Mediation are vastly different animals. Do some reading.

No need to get snippy Whale Driver. We're all on the same team, you know.

sheesh ...

744driver 05-08-2016 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by longhauler (Post 2124360)
Did the Union know this deal was in the works? If they did then NDA's would have been signed and a component of the SEC regulations and not much could have been done.

Can you clarify please? I'm not sure what you're implying here.


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