Atlas Air Hiring
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
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The guarantee is 62 hours but if one does a 17 day line then the CRT rig winds up being worth 81 hours or so. Being out over 13 days gets into overtime based on CRT. It's not unheard of for CS to clip four days off of the end of a 17 day pairing and replace them with home reserve to avoid this.
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It is completely unrealistic to expect 80 hrs per month. Yes it is mathematically possible to start a pattern of 17 days in a row at 00:01z after you commuted potentially 2 days prior to get in position with 10hrs rest, then end your pattern at 23:59z on the last day, and then gateway/commute/pay taxes on an airline ticket/go home/whatever you want to call it. Some of the bids are published at 82 hours but as soon as they change anything it will drop. Vacation, training, sick, welcome back to 62hrs.
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
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Guys, Ive been following this thread for like 4 years now and one of my only times posting. I would really like an unbiased opinion of whats going on and if its worth it to make this jump to Atlas. I was offered the test (havent taken it yet). Ive also done my due diligence. Its just so crazy to me to see the change in the group just from 3 years ago to now. I always have had my eyes on Atlas but now reading all this from posters on here Im really having second thoughts. I understand all the frustration and I would really like to make a sound decision as this would be a big move if I made it through the process. Im a regional 121 captain. I for the most part understand the pay and lifestyle deal with Atlas. My big question is are the doors really coming off the company? Are furloughs in the future potentially? Will everything come to a halt? I noticed theres a big movement from guys on here to not get new hires to come and painting this really lousy picture. Is it really that bad? Is it really because they are looking out for the new guy or are they trying to get one over on managment so they cant staff and have to come to the table? I understand all of it. I feel the frustration for the group but this is something ive been mulling over. Its a bummer Atlas was always one of the places at the top of my list. I mean hes got the world on his shoulders on the tail of the plane...with the call sign Giant! Thats pretty bada**. Anyway any advice looking at both sides would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
If you do come expect to make about $40K your first year and fly with guys that are furious.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
It is completely unrealistic to expect 80 hrs per month. Yes it is mathematically possible to start a pattern of 17 days in a row at 00:01z after you commuted potentially 2 days prior to get in position with 10hrs rest, then end your pattern at 23:59z on the last day, and then gateway/commute/pay taxes on an airline ticket/go home/whatever you want to call it. Some of the bids are published at 82 hours but as soon as they change anything it will drop. Vacation, training, sick, welcome back to 62hrs.
Guys, Ive been following this thread for like 4 years now and one of my only times posting. I would really like an unbiased opinion of whats going on and if its worth it to make this jump to Atlas. I was offered the test (havent taken it yet). Ive also done my due diligence. Its just so crazy to me to see the change in the group just from 3 years ago to now. I always have had my eyes on Atlas but now reading all this from posters on here Im really having second thoughts. I understand all the frustration and I would really like to make a sound decision as this would be a big move if I made it through the process. Im a regional 121 captain. I for the most part understand the pay and lifestyle deal with Atlas. My big question is are the doors really coming off the company? Are furloughs in the future potentially? Will everything come to a halt? I noticed theres a big movement from guys on here to not get new hires to come and painting this really lousy picture. Is it really that bad? Is it really because they are looking out for the new guy or are they trying to get one over on managment so they cant staff and have to come to the table? I understand all of it. I feel the frustration for the group but this is something ive been mulling over. Its a bummer Atlas was always one of the places at the top of my list. I mean hes got the world on his shoulders on the tail of the plane...with the call sign Giant! Thats pretty bada**. Anyway any advice looking at both sides would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
There are so many other airlines at which an Atlas qualified pilot could get hired and establish a decent career. A side trip to Atlas would be a waste of your time.
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Position: 74 FO
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Short term career advice
First read this: Atlasfacts.org
Then read this: K4 Hiring 100-130 pilots in 2017
Then go here: https://workforcenow.adp.com/jobs/ap...=MP&lang=en_US
Then read this: K4 Hiring 100-130 pilots in 2017
Then go here: https://workforcenow.adp.com/jobs/ap...=MP&lang=en_US
$66 million dollar bonus handed out to 5 management types. Call in sick, 62hr guarantee, Death in the family, 62hr guarantee, at the whim of crew scheduling 62hr guarantee, ETC. Need I say anymore, ALLOUT 2017.
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